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[00:00:31] <soul-d> also nice here pulled out my fpga dev kit again currently building vga driver @ 1280x1024 (max 12 bit rgb hardware) wich should be easily adapted to a smaller full rgb screen later on if i get it working :)
[00:14:58] <soul-d> http://i.imgur.com/U9LfV.png id what i got sofar as system
[00:15:16] <soul-d> and wondering how it became 7 am :P
[00:26:30] <eadthem> i wish someone made a LCD with less PCB
[00:36:42] <soul-d> still got one laptop/lcd panel wich comes close but that highspeed lvds isn't a joke so only got as far as making backlight work
[00:37:36] <eadthem> VGA is alot easer for that
[00:37:52] <eadthem> and a CGA if you have one can be done right off a atmel
[00:38:02] <eadthem> without ADC
[00:38:06] <eadthem> err DAC
[00:39:36] <eadthem> soul-d is 256 colors enough
[00:39:43] <soul-d> currently using fpga dev kit only has a 4bit color resistor thingy on its vga but got one of those 4"3 full rgb screens for it to
[00:40:35] <eadthem> my thoughts are you could with a dual port ram chip run a DVI without much effort
[00:40:50] <eadthem> other than a clock circut and using the atmel to slowly update segments of the screen
[00:41:02] <eadthem> at 1280x1024
[00:41:37] <soul-d> http://users.ece.gatech.edu/~hamblen/DE1/DE1.JPG is what im using now
[00:42:58] <eadthem> nice
[00:45:27] <soul-d> stocked up on some altera boards for when winter comes ;) also got
http://www.altera.com/b/images/DE0-Nano_board.jpg wich except testing still in it's box
[00:46:15] <eadthem> http://www.cypress.com/?mpn=CYD36S36V18-167BGXI
[00:46:17] <eadthem> well screw that
[00:47:01] <soul-d> heh pbga good luck soldering that yourself :P
[00:47:08] <eadthem> not that
[00:47:15] <eadthem> that anyone can do with a heatgun
[00:47:30] <eadthem> and i run the SMT dept at work so reflow is easy :p
[00:48:11] <soul-d> only got ayouee hot air iron thingy station
[00:48:25] <soul-d> chinese stuff :P
[00:48:41] <eadthem> by heatgun i mean a standard dual temp heatgun
[00:48:50] <eadthem> like what you buy from ace hardware
[00:48:57] <eadthem> 1100W
[00:49:08] <soul-d> like paint stripper ?
[00:49:09] <eadthem> hold about 2 inches above the board and just wave it around and over
[00:49:12] <eadthem> exactly
[00:49:29] <eadthem> its our primary reworking tool at work
[00:49:41] <soul-d> oh got a cheapo oven to do reflow if one wanted to but got one of those to
[00:49:45] <eadthem> nothing else works well on 4 layer 6 ounce copper
[00:50:01] <soul-d> maybe should try to do some boards then got some chips in stock i forgot about
[00:50:06] <eadthem> that with a tube of chipquick and your set for anything even bga
[00:50:17] <eadthem> practice on a old mobo first however :p
[00:50:35] <eadthem> the key is even heat over the whole board
[00:50:57] <eadthem> bring the whole thing up to 150C for lead 200 for lead free
[00:51:16] <eadthem> use your hot air station to bring the specific part to reflow
[00:51:32] <eadthem> small boards just use the heatgun
[00:53:26] <soul-d> im usaly lazy to make boards though maybe should just try with eagle linux version but it's such love hate with that program
[00:53:49] <eadthem> http://www.freepcb.com/
[00:53:49] <soul-d> it looks nice and all until you use it
[00:56:39] <eadthem> http://final.servegame.com/public/PCBP/drv8811/bare.jpg
[00:56:45] <eadthem> http://final.servegame.com/public/PCBP/drv8811/top.jpg
[00:56:51] <eadthem> http://final.servegame.com/public/PCBP/drv8811/bot.jpg
[00:56:53] <soul-d> should retry been a while again never could find a pcb program to my liking
[00:57:06] <soul-d> oh ofcourse altium but i cant afford that
[00:57:25] <eadthem> that was done with freepcb seeed studio for boardhouse
[00:57:32] <soul-d> :)
[00:59:30] <soul-d> yeah got them in bookmarks
[01:01:05] <eadthem> its very easy to use
[01:01:14] <eadthem> lot less glitchy and bitchy than eagle
[01:01:57] <eadthem> the board i did was a hand enterd netlist but it will work with other opensource shcmatic editors
[01:02:08] <soul-d> yeah still linux though eagle has native these day's that would probably be wine
[01:03:26] <eadthem> ya i would bet it runs good in wine
[01:03:33] <eadthem> no fancy .net stuff
[01:05:16] <eadthem> it has autorouting via a external java thingy but if you want autorouting best stick to breadboards :p
[01:05:44] <soul-d> i like eagle's auto routing like how you cannot undo it ;)
[01:06:26] <soul-d> but usaly autorouters are more hassle then their worth
[01:12:47] <Casper> when it even work
[01:13:10] <Casper> I've routed some stuff on single layer that the autorouter failed to do on 4 layers!
[01:16:49] <soul-d> true should retry some prototyping
[02:02:05] <TechIsCool> Casper: So ture about autorouters. Never used one but it seems like a waste of time except when you need a idea for a few traces.
[02:02:37] <TechIsCool> true
[02:03:31] <TechIsCool> so many 90 degree corners on that board yikes
[02:03:44] <OndraSter> hehe
[02:03:54] <OndraSter> well I saw some SDRAM traces with 90° angles...
[02:04:01] <OndraSter> so it is not THAT big of a deal
[02:04:10] <TechIsCool> Bargin bin ram?
[02:04:20] <OndraSter> in some IBM Thin Clients
[02:04:29] <TechIsCool> OndraSter: I think a lot of people would say that was not true.
[02:04:41] <OndraSter> if it makes no problems on 100MHz
[02:04:46] <OndraSter> then it is not that big of a deal for you
[02:04:56] <OndraSter> I am not sure that you are doing 250MHz+ stuff :)
[02:05:55] <TechIsCool> maybe but we have to remember that the manufacturing cost and standards are higher allowing the 90 degree corners without peeling. I guess never had it happen just been told not to do it
[02:06:21] <OndraSter> I thought you ment 90° because of inductance
[02:06:57] <TechIsCool> haha no look at the trace on the
http://final.servegame.com/public/PCBP/drv8811/bare.jpg
[02:07:23] <OndraSter> I am on 16Kbit line...
[02:07:37] <OndraSter> so next summer bye bye :)
[02:08:08] <TechIsCool> not my board just looking at it.
[02:08:43] <OndraSter> 7% loaded..
[02:09:00] <TechIsCool> OndraSter: What are you loading?
[02:09:04] <OndraSter> that picture
[02:09:13] <TechIsCool> haha I am sorry
[02:09:19] <OndraSter> 56%
[02:09:50] <OndraSter> aw double loaded board
[02:10:24] <TechIsCool> OndraSter: Where are you that you have dialup?
[02:10:32] <OndraSter> well my main internet is down
[02:10:36] <OndraSter> so I am using my phone
[02:10:40] <OndraSter> but my phone has got depleted FUP
[02:10:44] <OndraSter> so it has been limited :)
[02:11:24] <TechIsCool> hahaha my brother gets that almost every month att hates him. One month he made it to 16GBs before they throttled him.
[02:11:31] <OndraSter> heh
[02:11:35] <OndraSter> I have got 600MB
[02:11:46] <OndraSter> and this is not the first time the main internet connection went down this month
[02:11:54] <TechIsCool> I am sorry
[02:11:59] <OndraSter> don't be :D
[02:12:05] <OndraSter> it is amusing to see me trying to do ANYTHING without internet :D
[02:12:25] <OndraSter> that board reminds me the times when boards were made by hand
[02:12:27] <OndraSter> designed by hand even
[02:12:33] <OndraSter> curly traces..
[02:13:09] <TechIsCool> My father looks at the boards I keep building in eagle and he goes that one process would have taken me(him) 2 hours.
[02:13:12] <soul-d> lol 16 gb takes me like 10 min
[02:13:58] <TechIsCool> soul-d: on LTE sure. but on Edge not so much. My ADSL2+ Connection has 1.2TBs used last month
[02:14:12] <OndraSter> I have got HSDPA
[02:14:16] <OndraSter> but throttled :D
[02:14:34] <OndraSter> it is so slow that Opera sometimes gives up after a while
[02:14:42] <soul-d> http://www.speedtest.net/result/2360752202.png
[02:14:45] <soul-d> :P
[02:15:02] <TechIsCool> soul-d: nice net
[02:15:44] <soul-d> only 97% faster then rest of country :( should call them to inquire when gbit is rolled out
[02:15:54] <TechIsCool> http://www.speedtest.net/result/2360753645.png
[02:16:06] <OndraSter> soul-d, school network? :D
[02:16:14] <soul-d> nope fiber 2 home
[02:16:15] <OndraSter> "edu"tel
[02:16:17] <OndraSter> oh
[02:17:09] <soul-d> downside is if modem is down so is phone
[02:19:04] <soul-d> although only happened twice since i have the service
[02:20:41] <TechIsCool> soul-d: Any bandwidth cap
[02:20:55] <soul-d> nope
[02:21:03] <TechIsCool> nice the way the internet should be
[02:21:11] <soul-d> price to
[02:21:20] <soul-d> 30 eur/m
[02:22:04] <TechIsCool> that's just not. {INSERT RAGE FACE}
[02:24:12] <soul-d> heh ive waited 5 months on it without connection when they started so i was not bound by contracts
[02:24:54] <TechIsCool> even better
[06:19:26] <jadew> w|zzy, I realeased a new version, nothing spectacular, just the ability to update parsers and the option to check at startup for new parsers / versions of the program
[06:22:12] <w|zzy> Cool :D
[06:22:22] <w|zzy> How wide has your client been released?
[06:22:35] <w|zzy> I find it about 50 billion times better than the java version, for windows.
[06:26:49] <jadew> w|zzy, I only posted a thread on the forum
[06:27:05] <jadew> I think one more guy is using it :)
[06:27:44] <w|zzy> Ohhh...
[06:27:53] <w|zzy> Should get it on hackaday or dangerous protoypes man site.
[06:28:04] <w|zzy> I can look into doing that if you want?
[06:28:41] <jadew> nah, it's ok
[06:31:01] <jadew> it needs to be a bit more polished anyway
[06:34:49] <jadew> I think this update feature is going to be very useful, for one it allows you to mess with the protocols and then just roll them back
[06:41:15] <w|zzy> As if!
[06:41:24] <w|zzy> you wont polish it past this point withoutuseres
[06:43:02] <jadew> motivation wise?
[06:43:26] <jadew> cuz I have lots of stuff on my todo list, but don't really have the time right now
[06:48:23] <w|zzy> Fair enough..
[06:48:38] <w|zzy> Well.. let me know if you want me to get the word out...
[06:50:12] <jadew> sure thing, thanks
[06:58:40] <OndraSter> what app? The logic analyzer stuff?
[06:58:51] <jadew> yep
[07:03:58] <jadew> this channel is so screwed up, everything you post here ends up on google
[07:04:57] <OndraSter> heh
[07:05:01] <OndraSter> zlog?
[07:05:02] <OndraSter> !log
[07:05:05] <OndraSter> !log?
[07:05:12] <jadew> so he's at fault!
[07:35:22] <Malinuss> hello
[11:20:57] <DexterLB> hello
[11:21:06] <DexterLB> is <time.h> available for avr/gcc?
[11:22:09] <DexterLB> I'm building a clock, and it would be nice to use the functions for determining day of week, dst etc
[11:23:25] <Tom_itx> http://www.nongnu.org/avr-libc/user-manual/modules.html
[11:24:35] <specing> DexterLB: those functions depend on /etc/localtime (the zoneinfo database)
[11:25:00] <eadthem> tom it is finished or well ready for beta
[11:27:34] <eadthem> about 1400 bytes
[11:28:40] <eadthem> acctualy less space than the asm version and it will do more such as 1 2 3 4 line order, hex, numbers, auto new line...
[11:29:20] <eadthem> i would bet the extensive code reuse probably means its a touch slower but also why its smaller
[11:32:44] <Tom_itx> http://www.ebay.com/itm/204-20X4-20-4-2004-Blue-Character-LCD-Module-Display-LCM-Compatible-HD44780-/221137744528?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D4038287620223782435%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D221137744528%26
[11:33:17] <Tom_itx> i hope those are single supply
[11:33:25] <Tom_itx> ie no negative bias
[11:33:34] <Tom_itx> i think most lcd's today are that way
[11:33:54] <eadthem> ya thats a normal lcd
[11:34:02] <eadthem> very similar to my 4x20
[11:37:10] <eadthem> http://www.ebay.com/itm/160917281746?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
[11:37:24] <eadthem> Tom_itx thats what ive been working with mostly on my lib project
[11:37:46] <eadthem> thats the sale i bought it from after i found my white on blue was fryed
[11:37:51] <hackvana> Why do people post such long ebay links?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221137744528
[11:39:19] <eadthem> the one i linked is very visable with or without backlight readable at a 30 degree angle
[11:41:15] <eadthem> the big reason i got it was i couldnt wait for china shipping it came usps and arrived in 2 days
[11:43:08] <Tom_itx> hackvana is it eating up your bandwidth? :)
[11:43:43] <hackvana> Oh, enormously!
[11:44:18] <eadthem> also didnt want blue, because blue light can keep you from sleeping and i eventualy intend on it running in a bedroom.
[11:44:26] <Tom_itx> eadthem, i've got 4 of those but they all require negative bias
[11:44:33] <Tom_itx> besides i wanted a blue one :)
[11:44:41] <eadthem> didnt need negitive
[11:44:45] <Tom_itx> mine are older displays
[11:44:49] <eadthem> 0 and 5V
[11:44:55] <Tom_itx> yeah
[11:47:34] <eadthem> didnt know they made character lcd's that needed negitive bias
[12:26:54] <RikusW> it seems I managed to fry my pc mb :(
[12:28:20] <RikusW> 5Vsb only measure 2v5 when the psu is connected to the mb...
[12:30:13] <OndraSter> duh
[12:30:58] <RikusW> it happened when I connected my external 1tb's power...
[12:31:07] <RikusW> no clue why it happened :-/
[12:31:21] <RikusW> the usb ports are powered from 5vsb
[12:31:46] <RikusW> the 1tb is still fine (/me feels relieved)
[12:34:43] <hackvana> Would have been a terrible shame to have lost all those flesh-tone pictures...
[12:35:05] <hackvana> (sorry to hear about your mb)
[12:35:12] <RikusW> thanks
[12:35:19] <RikusW> fortunately I have another pc...
[12:35:28] <RikusW> but it only have XP, no linux yet
[12:35:49] <RikusW> maybe I could put in my old hd and boot linux from it (fortunately that still works
[12:35:56] <Tom_itx> eadthem, yes older ones did and i still think graphic ones do
[12:36:03] <hackvana> Not a bad idea
[12:36:11] <RikusW> I think 5vsb is shorted....
[12:36:57] <RikusW> however booting XP from the old hd is probably a bad idea, windows don't like such changes...
[12:37:06] <Tom_itx> it'll recover
[12:37:17] <Tom_itx> i've installed on one pc and moved em before
[12:37:34] <RikusW> I've done that too, and scrapped XP installs
[12:37:44] <RikusW> wouldn't even work in the original pc anymore
[12:38:06] <eadthem> sounds like a psu change might fix it
[12:38:17] <RikusW> for linux I'll have to mess with the x config again
[12:38:33] <eadthem> ewww
[12:38:39] <Tom_itx> ok maybe china will deliver before christmas
[12:39:14] <Tom_itx> hackvana how's the board business?
[12:39:18] <eadthem> well that 1 seller will probably get it there in 2 days
[12:39:28] <eadthem> assuming he has blue
[12:39:30] <Tom_itx> i may be up for a few after the new year
[12:39:46] <Tom_itx> i didn't get it from your link
[12:39:56] <hackvana> Tom_itx: Going ok!
[12:40:11] <hackvana> More orders than I can handle, which is great
[12:40:15] <Tom_itx> good
[12:40:22] <eadthem> yellow purple black black brown on a blue body
[12:40:26] <Tom_itx> i'll stop recomending if you're flooded :)
[12:40:29] <hackvana> Would love to see more from #avr though
[12:40:44] <hackvana> Naah, the problem is I don't have much automation to handle the paperwork
[12:40:48] <hackvana> I'm writing that right now
[12:40:50] <Tom_itx> somebody wanted the aluminum substrate for reprap heaters
[12:41:05] <hackvana> After that's done, my ability to handle orders will go up an order of magnitude
[12:41:09] <hackvana> Yep
[12:41:15] <eadthem> i know that feeling
[12:41:20] <hackvana> It's something I'd like to do in the future
[12:41:23] <eadthem> u run a pool?
[12:41:33] <hackvana> No, each order is made separately
[12:41:40] <hackvana> So they can be started immediately
[12:41:45] <hackvana> There's a saying with startup companies: "fake it before you make it"
[12:41:54] <hackvana> And so far, the order processing has been faked.
[12:42:06] <hackvana> Which is great when you're trying things out
[12:42:11] <hackvana> Now I know what works, it's time to do it properly
[12:42:22] <eadthem> so you are your own boardhouse?
[12:42:40] <RikusW> china is his boardhouse ;)
[12:42:45] <eadthem> oic
[12:42:50] <hackvana> If you didn't see it, there was a video interview of me on the front of Dangerous Prototypes several days ago
[12:42:53] <hackvana> There are different fabs I use, depending on the job
[12:43:03] <hackvana> I'm an Australian, but I moved to Shenzhen China.
[12:43:11] <hackvana> Amazing place here.
[12:43:38] <eadthem> <jelus>
[12:44:05] * RikusW idly wonders how much a 6 layer mb sized pcb will cost :-P
[12:44:51] <Tom_itx> you gonna take your family there if it goes good?
[12:44:52] <OndraSter> if you are doing <1k pieces
[12:44:54] <OndraSter> then a lot :)
[12:45:19] <hackvana> http://dangerousprototypes.com/2012/12/06/workshop-video-interview-with-mitch-from-hackvana/
[12:45:24] <Tom_itx> hackvana, do you keep stuff for repeat orders?
[12:45:33] <RikusW> would be cheaper to buy one, was planning to buy one next year anyways...
[12:45:55] <eadthem> bout how much per inch for dual sided 1/2 ounce without silk
[12:46:30] <RikusW> the blown mb was an old i845 anyways...
[12:46:46] <eadthem> eww
[12:47:10] <RikusW> eadthem: last i asked for 10x10cm 2 layer it was about $30 iirc
[12:47:22] <eadthem> how many copys?
[12:47:25] <RikusW> for 4 layer it was more like $120
[12:47:27] <RikusW> 10
[12:47:40] <eadthem> not bad
[12:48:31] <Tom_itx> went to a retail store just now and they had paypal as a payment optinon
[12:48:32] <RikusW> even with the optional $25 for DHL it will be cheaper to let hackvana do my pcb than do it locally
[12:48:35] <Tom_itx> never seen that before
[12:49:32] <hackvana> They're coming to HK for Christmas, so I'll see them next week. But live here? No way. The schooling system here is totally and pathologically fucked.
[12:49:33] <hackvana> Tom_itx: I back up customer design files to an external hard disk, then delete them.
[12:49:33] <hackvana> I haven't found a cost-effective way to do 4-layer yet.
[12:49:34] <hackvana> Tom_itx: It will happen
[12:49:34] <hackvana> RikusW: That's right. And you can get your boards faster than locally, and learn from and improve your design
[12:49:57] <hackvana> And you can always talk with me in #hackvana :-)
[12:50:14] <RikusW> I will
[12:50:35] <eadthem> man the covertape on my 0805 0 ohms got pulled back in the drawer
[12:50:37] <Tom_itx> better solicitation here though :)
[12:50:51] <RikusW> locally there is one place that makes up to 6 boards in 24h, but the setup costs is like $55
[12:50:53] <eadthem> irony of this is at work we would of just turned the drawer over a trashcan :p
[12:51:06] <RikusW> and then another $22 for the 6 boards
[12:52:03] <hackvana> RikusW: That's not a bad deal
[12:52:37] <hackvana> Did anyone see my vid?
http://dangerousprototypes.com/2012/12/06/workshop-video-interview-with-mitch-from-hackvana/
[12:52:45] <Tom_itx> no
[12:53:55] <hackvana> Well *I* thought it was a good vid :-)
[12:54:02] <Steffanx> Aaah, don't look into the camera like that hackvana :P
[12:54:15] <RikusW> hackvana: for my U2S boards it was about $1.30 each for 120
[12:54:28] <hackvana> Ian told me to: When you've got something to share, tell the camera
[12:54:41] <hackvana> What he cut out was me looking down at the mic :-)
[12:55:51] <RikusW> (plus $77 for the first 6)
[12:59:56] <RikusW> eadthem: I always have my diskless i810 to fall back to too :-P
[13:00:09] <RikusW> only 900MHz, ugh
[13:00:42] <eadthem> my server/router box is a dual via eden 1400/300mhz (2 boards)
[13:01:26] <RikusW> I do have amd 939 pin cpu's around, but no working md...
[13:01:30] <RikusW> *mb
[13:01:38] <eadthem> 900 is good for a server
[13:02:13] <eadthem> only reason i got the edens is i was using 250W for my old PII 400mhz router and athlon slot A 750Mhz server
[13:02:16] <RikusW> actually its a 600MHz celeron, overclocked to 900, and it works like that, don't even get hot :)
[13:02:31] <eadthem> new one uses 50W for both payed for itself in power savings in first year
[13:02:59] <Tom_itx> hackvana, good video
[13:03:03] <hackvana> Thanks
[13:03:10] <hackvana> My server is a 1GHz ARM :-)
[13:03:17] <Tom_itx> horrible accent :)
[13:03:25] <Tom_itx> jk
[13:03:39] <hackvana> How does it rate on the DaveJonesOMeter?
[13:04:19] <RikusW> hackvana: that ARM probably use very little power ? 1W like rpi ?
[13:04:25] <hackvana> (Mr. EEVblog)
[13:04:30] <hackvana> 2W idle
[13:04:48] <hackvana> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SheevaPlug
[13:05:23] <hackvana> I'm running Fedora ARM 19.
[13:05:27] <hackvana> Oops, Fedora ARM 17
[13:06:38] <rue_bed> !seen irseeyou
[13:06:38] <tobbor> irseeyou was last seen in #avr on Dec 03 22:55 2012
[13:08:27] <RikusW> hackvana: nice and small
[13:12:16] <hackvana> I can leave it always-on without it hitting the power bill too much
[13:12:36] <hackvana> That's in Australia. That's what I ssh into when a computer in my family needs a little remote assistance :-)
[13:12:48] <hackvana> And one of my VPN endpoints
[13:27:09] <dardizer> stk500 + dell xps17 L702X without rs232... what do?
[13:31:30] <RikusW> usb to serial converter ?
[13:31:38] <RikusW> or get stk600
[13:32:04] <RikusW> or this
https://sites.google.com/site/megau2s ;)
[13:32:07] <dardizer> RikusW: I've heard the usb to rs232 converters suck, especially with stk500
[13:32:33] <RikusW> there is pci / pciX to rs232 cards
[13:32:44] <dardizer> stk600 has rs232 aswell afaik?
[13:32:52] <RikusW> no, only usb
[13:33:06] <dardizer> well, it's too expensive anyway, can't spend another 300€ :P
[13:33:26] <RikusW> pci - rs232 cards isn't too expensive
[13:33:29] <dardizer> RikusW: will be hard on a laptop :/
[13:34:21] <RikusW> you could give usb-rs232 a try
[13:34:21] <dardizer> RikusW: maybe I can hack it into the dvd bay which I don't need anyway :P
[13:34:52] <RikusW> don't break the laptop ;)
[13:34:57] <dardizer> lol
[13:34:58] <dardizer> right
[13:35:03] * RikusW just blew a i845 motherboard :-/
[13:35:20] <Tom_itx> oops
[13:35:23] <RikusW> happened while connecting the power of an external usb hdd
[13:35:32] <dardizer> RikusW: so what would you suggest me instead of the stk500? (same price range, same functions)
[13:35:36] <RikusW> no clue why it happened
[13:36:00] <RikusW> my stk500 clone, or tom's programmer ?
[13:36:12] <dardizer> I don't really want to just give a random adapter a try, because they cost 20€ too and if it doesn't work then xD
[13:40:45] <RikusW> dardizer: my clone is a stk500 + jtagice + usb-serial + bootloader for custom app
[13:42:30] <dardizer> RikusW: well, I guess I'll need an adapter
[13:42:51] <dardizer> I already have the stk500
[13:42:55] <RikusW> mine only give logic levels for serial not full rs232
[13:43:05] <dardizer> I just want to use it on my laptop too
[13:43:09] <dardizer> not only my desktop
[13:43:32] <dardizer> so your clone won't really help me :/
[13:43:44] <dardizer> RikusW: USB-COM232-PLUS1 should be fine, right?
[13:44:06] <RikusW> it hopefully
[13:44:37] <specing> RikusW: does it do usb-serial simultaneously now?
[13:45:08] <dardizer> does anyone here have an USB-COM232-PLUS1/2? :P
[13:47:32] <OndraSter_> hmm
[13:47:39] <OndraSter_> I know that there are circuits for latching soft buttons
[13:47:54] <OndraSter_> wait
[13:47:57] <OndraSter_> what did I want to say
[13:48:03] <OndraSter_> nvm
[13:53:49] <RikusW> specing: it can me instantly switched by pc sw between stk and serial
[13:54:39] <RikusW> almost instantly anyways
[14:01:46] <specing> RikusW: does it fit in 8K?
[14:01:49] <specing> atmega8u2
[14:08:12] <RikusW> it might
[14:09:18] <RikusW> specing: do you still have that m32u2 ?
[14:09:23] <specing> yes
[14:09:34] <specing> though making a board for it.... LAZY
[14:09:41] * RikusW still got those blank u2s boards
[14:09:52] <specing> getting my stellaris launchpad tomorrow
[14:09:57] <specing> x2
[14:09:58] <OndraSter_> hehe
[14:09:59] <OndraSter_> so do I
[14:10:02] <OndraSter_> so am I*
[14:10:05] <dardizer> so guys
[14:10:13] <dardizer> I'll buy the usb-com232-plus1
[14:10:14] <dardizer> :P
[14:10:18] <dardizer> let's hope it works
[14:10:18] <specing> first test with arm-none-eabi: 10KB hello.c ( int main() {} }
[14:10:33] <OndraSter_> duh
[14:10:38] <OndraSter_> -O3?
[14:10:39] <dardizer> and if not, I'll have to make it work
[14:10:39] <dardizer> :P
[14:10:46] <specing> OndraSter_: -O0
[14:10:48] <OndraSter_> ah
[14:11:04] <OndraSter_> still, that is a lot :P
[14:11:08] <specing> yeah
[14:11:17] <specing> still, it has 256 KB flash :P
[14:11:25] <OndraSter_> :D
[14:11:29] <specing> gotta fill that up somehow...
[14:11:33] <OndraSter_> I thought they were only 128kB?
[14:12:08] <RikusW> specing: seems my fw is a little over 8k
[14:12:15] <specing> maybe the ship the 128KB version to the less demanding chech market :D
[14:12:20] <OndraSter_> czech*
[14:12:22] <specing> RikusW: :S
[14:12:36] <specing> OndraSter_: I've given up on properly spelling chech
[14:12:42] <OndraSter_> czech*
[14:12:43] <specing> please bear with me
[14:12:49] <OndraSter_> please beer with me
[14:12:51] <OndraSter_> *
[14:12:52] <OndraSter_> :)
[14:12:57] <specing> Cheers!
[14:13:02] <OndraSter_> no beer here :(
[14:13:05] * specing is already drunk
[14:13:26] <specing> RikusW: "a little" as in 10 bytes? 100 bytes? 1000 bytes?
[14:13:41] <RikusW> starts at 5c00 in flash
[14:13:51] <RikusW> though i could leave out the bootloader
[14:14:32] <RikusW> seems 9k
[14:14:34] <specing> :S
[14:14:43] <RikusW> or the jtagice...
[14:15:17] <RikusW> or the usb-serial module :-P
[14:15:28] <eadthem> RikusW what ya doing
[14:16:04] <RikusW> still wondering wtf happened to my mb :-/
[14:16:12] <eadthem> o
[14:16:32] <RikusW> can't think why it happened
[14:17:31] <RikusW> so far i blew one m32 due to faulty psu and one old intel mb due to power issues....
[14:18:16] <OndraSter_> RikusW, do you have ESD suppressors?
[14:18:29] <RikusW> not sure
[14:18:39] <OndraSter_> on the m32
[14:19:07] <RikusW> the m32 blew because the psu output a 25V spike when turning off
[14:19:12] <OndraSter_> ah
[14:19:23] <OndraSter_> I think that mine ESD suppressor catches fire at 24V
[14:19:27] <RikusW> (buggy homebrew 741 feedback psu)
[14:19:31] <OndraSter_> :D
[14:19:45] <RikusW> fixed it
[14:19:56] <RikusW> put a hv cap in parallel with the power switch
[14:20:04] <RikusW> spike is much less now
[14:21:02] <RikusW> the negative rail is connected to a seperate secondary, that might be the cause of the spike....
[16:28:21] <dardizer> does anybody use usb-com232-plus1 with an stk500?
[16:39:39] <yunta> did you try to organize it?
[16:39:50] <yunta> oops, wrong channel again,
[16:39:55] <yunta> xchat is annoying at times
[18:20:56] <jet> Hi, I'm trying to compile a program for arduino on my freebsd box, using the avr port
[18:21:08] <jet> I'm having a problem to boot my arduino with it
[18:21:25] <jet> when I dump my elf file, I get :
http://privatepaste.com/4df700ed63
[18:22:18] <jet> If I take the exact same object files, and I link them on a mac, I get
http://privatepaste.com/3df36a31ec and my arduino can boot
[18:22:53] <jet> I don't understand the difference. The arduino command to link is the same on both platform, but the avr version is different.
[18:24:36] <jet> on the mac I have
http://privatepaste.com/f7efba5937 on freebsd, i have :
http://privatepaste.com/430171511a and the link command is :
http://privatepaste.com/25770b59fe
[19:44:12] <Grievre> jet: the "--mmcu=
[19:44:14] <Grievre> damnit
[19:44:23] <Grievre> jet: the "--mmcu=atmega2560"
[19:44:27] <Grievre> might be what's breaking it
[19:44:35] <Grievre> your arduino has an atmega328 am I right?
[20:06:44] <jadew> w|zzy, in case you're using 1-wire, the parser for it decodes the OEM codes now, except for the SEARCH one, checks the CRC as well
[20:07:21] <jadew> I want to add a way of displaying the family and serial number of the device, but I'm not sure how, since it's part of the address
[20:07:34] <w|zzy> Nice
[20:09:52] <TechIsCool> anyone know how vbus detect should work
[21:20:08] <eadthem> man i hate stareing at a blank page of code
[21:46:24] <Tom_itx> don't let it stay blank
[22:25:06] <rue_mohr> paste this into it:
[22:25:47] <rue_mohr> int mian(void) { while(1) { } return 0;}
[22:27:22] <Grievre> is that a function that's supposed to make noodles or something?
[22:27:24] <Tom_itx> only speel it right when u do
[22:28:13] <Tom_itx> ok, pins defined ( i think )
[22:37:49] <rue_mohr> it works on any processor
[22:38:02] <rue_mohr> well
[22:38:13] <rue_mohr> it dosn't work on any if you dont correct the one error
[23:14:47] <eadthem> ok thers some stuff thats well unusualy intenlgent about the intelisense with avrstudio
[23:15:11] <eadthem> like when im doing the config function thats copying settings to the object from function passing.
[23:15:32] <eadthem> i type trxP and it predicts trxPort thats not so unusual
[23:16:07] <eadthem> i then hit space and type = And it predicts _trxPort; witch is the paramter name passed from the function
[23:16:34] <eadthem> next line i type t and it predicts trxDdr = _trxDdr;
[23:16:56] <eadthem> now thats freaky
[23:17:06] <eadthem> and blows normal MS intelisense out of the water
