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[02:31:44] <Vutral> $%$§%
[02:37:22] <r00t|home> !%@$%@
[03:33:20] <ondra> i was just on #avr.. but on quakenet lol
[03:34:17] <OndraVPS> !seen OndraSter
[03:34:17] <tobbor> OndraSter was last seen in #avr on Dec 03 17:34 2012
[03:34:24] <OndraVPS> !date
[03:34:31] <OndraVPS> !time
[03:34:31] <tobbor> My watch says its 01:22AM Tue Dec 04 2012
[03:34:49] <OndraVPS> that is very long
[03:35:03] <Tom_itx> lost?
[03:35:19] <OndraVPS> !seen OndraSter_
[03:35:20] <tobbor> OndraSter_ was last seen in #avr on Dec 04 01:12 2012
[03:35:25] <OndraVPS> oh.
[03:35:33] <OndraSter> ..
[06:13:24] <Malinuss> Somebody bored enough to want to help me with some 3D rendering code, for my nokia display? haha
[06:18:30] <|Marco|> sorry, don't have experience with that :/
[06:20:52] <OndraSter> IT IS A SIMPLE 3RD GRADE MATH! lol
[06:40:36] <|Marco|> oookay?
[06:41:48] <OndraSter> sorry, just remembering yesterday's discussion :D
[07:01:42] <iSaleK> Is there a help channel for dsPIC? :)
[07:02:02] <OndraSter> not here
[07:02:07] <OndraSter> ##pic
[07:03:02] <iSaleK> I ment on freenode, I know this is AVR only :)
[07:03:09] <OndraSter> ##pic
[07:03:10] <OndraSter> ask there
[07:03:13] <iSaleK> Thanks :)
[07:03:18] <Malinuss> OndraSter, it's okay I remember it too, haha
[07:03:25] <Malinuss> OndraSter, you have any experience with 3d btw.?
[07:03:58] <iSaleK> I preffer Atmel but I have to do a project on dsPIC :)
[07:05:03] <OndraSter> Malinuss, I don't like math
[07:05:12] <Malinuss> okay
[07:05:14] <Malinuss> :(
[07:05:25] <Malinuss> but even a 9 year old could do it, OndraSter
[07:05:29] <Malinuss> maybe you dense ;P?
[07:05:34] <OndraSter> 9year old bear
[07:24:45] <Tom_itx> CapnKernel, can you do PCBs on an aluminium substrate?
[07:26:41] <Tom_itx> if so, how much more than FR4 would it be?
[07:44:28] <hetii> Hello :)
[07:44:32] <hetii> I have RFID reader that are able to read unique in format em410X, what in the case if will have some other uniqe card
[07:44:36] <hetii> should i get some data from reader ?
[07:44:41] <hetii> cause at this moment its look like he simply ignor my cards and i don`t know if its corupted or the cards are not compatible
[07:45:33] <hackvana> Tom_itx:
[07:45:35] <hackvana> Hi
[07:46:15] <hackvana> Sorry, I'm not yet able to do Al substrate PCBs
[07:46:37] <hackvana> Got 30 people in #hackvana though :-)
[09:20:08] <Essobi> sup
[09:30:50] <Malinuss> hjello
[09:32:23] <Essobi> howdy
[09:32:28] <megal0maniac> Yo
[09:32:39] <Essobi> what's crackin
[09:32:49] <megal0maniac> Things
[09:33:13] <Essobi> and passwords
[09:33:39] <Malinuss> trying to do a 3D renderer on a avr....
[09:36:58] <megal0maniac> Eggs a crackin', bacon a cracklin'
[09:37:19] <megal0maniac> Can one do VGA out from an atmega?
[09:37:41] <Malinuss> megal0maniac, yes
[09:38:05] <Malinuss> megal0maniac, compound is easier though, at least as far as I understand :)
[09:38:23] <megal0maniac> I want colour
[09:38:49] <Malinuss> megal0maniac, think it might be possible with compound. I've seen somebody do it, at least
[09:38:59] <Malinuss> with vga - go for it
[09:39:23] <Malinuss> megal0maniac, if you want a display with colors, that won't take 100% of the cpu, rather get one of these babys: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-8-Serial-TFT-Color-LCD-Display-Module-SPI-Interface-5-IO-Ports-128X160-/350631224180?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D3920473136362730158%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D350631224180%26
[09:39:34] <OndraSter> why 100%? :)
[09:39:37] <OndraSter> DMA + event timer yo!
[09:39:44] <OndraSter> err
[09:39:46] <OndraSter> + even + timer
[09:39:49] <OndraSter> event
[09:39:56] <megal0maniac> OndraSter: On an atmega, though
[09:40:25] <Malinuss> OndraSter, well maybe I was just too retarded, but I couldn't make it work quiet right, hehe
[09:40:48] <theBear> quite
[09:41:11] <megal0maniac> Malinuss: It needs to output to a 15 pin D-type connector, on an LCD panel
[09:41:26] <OndraSter> megal0maniac, oh mega
[09:41:33] <megal0maniac> If it can do green, red, black and white, then I'm happy
[09:41:38] <Malinuss> megal0maniac, huh? the display I just linked?
[09:41:39] <megal0maniac> OndraSter: Yo
[09:41:56] <megal0maniac> Malinuss: No. I'm pointing out why that display doesn't help me
[09:41:57] <OndraSter> sooo
[09:42:02] <OndraSter> appearantly the last caps arrived
[09:42:09] <OndraSter> and I found my transparent paper
[09:42:15] <OndraSter> so I can do the PCB for my thermal oven
[09:42:19] <Malinuss> megal0maniac, I don't uunderstand :(
[09:43:42] <megal0maniac> Malinuss: I need to connect an atmega328p or similar to a VGA monitor
[09:43:54] <megal0maniac> The type you connect to your computer
[09:44:16] <Malinuss> megal0maniac, okay, it *needs* to be a VGA monitor? well then do that?
[09:44:24] <Malinuss> megal0maniac, I've seen some guide on that
[09:46:54] <OndraSter> megal0maniac, the 16/20MHz is not much :)
[09:47:20] <megal0maniac> OndraSter: I know... Maybe an atmega644p. It can do 28mhz or thereabouts
[09:47:25] <OndraSter> :)
[09:47:30] <OndraSter> why not Zoidberg!
[09:47:31] <OndraSter> or xmega
[09:47:36] <megal0maniac> Alternatively, I shall buy breadboard xboard minis
[09:47:45] <OndraSter> I don't have those and won't have in the near future
[09:47:52] <megal0maniac> Yeah, I know
[09:55:48] <megal0maniac> There's also http://microvga.com, but it's expensive
[10:00:07] <Malinuss> megal0maniac, here is what I've been looking at, at some point: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=11608
[10:04:41] <Malinuss> megal0maniac, even if you can't use that - I think it's very interesting reading
[10:05:09] <OndraSter> are they running VGA out on arduino? :o
[10:09:21] <Malinuss> OndraSter, yes, even colors
[10:09:28] <Malinuss> OndraSter, and that is on the arduino UNO
[10:09:51] <Essobi> Hehehe.
[10:10:17] <megal0maniac> Malinuss: It is pretty interesting, just a little over my head :/
[10:10:18] <edmont> hi
[10:10:28] <edmont> do you know of any nice .map viewer?
[10:10:29] <Essobi> Oh oh..
[10:10:33] <megal0maniac> OndraSter: Which means a m328p @ 16mhz
[10:10:37] <megal0maniac> edmont: Hi
[10:10:42] <Essobi> I'd love to see a full blown serial terminal on an AVR.
[10:10:49] <Essobi> That'd be f'ing great. :D
[10:10:51] <megal0maniac> Essobi: bitlash
[10:11:29] <Essobi> So bad it's for the ard. :| I like plain C, I don't run the ide or bootloader. :|
[10:11:35] <Malinuss> megal0maniac, hahah, what did you expect? Actually if you read it trough ( I just did), it isn't as hard to figure out as one would expect. I was actually very suprised to see how simple the vga connection is
[10:12:01] <Malinuss> megal0maniac, like I've said, if you want something simple buy a SPI controlled LCD screen
[10:12:05] <Essobi> megal0maniac: But I was thinking more like... Serial input, to a vga screen/keyboard driven by an AVR.
[10:12:20] <Essobi> A terminal emulator if you will.
[10:12:40] <OndraSter> Essobi, http://www.batsocks.co.uk/products/Other/TellyMate.htm ?
[10:12:45] <Essobi> Haha.
[10:12:49] <Malinuss> Essobi, it would take 5min to rewrite that code for C... The bootlader have nothing to do with it
[10:12:57] <Essobi> http://www.atmel.com/Images/doc2547.pdf
[10:13:05] <Essobi> AVR244: AVR UART as ANSI Terminal Interface
[10:13:09] <OndraSter> haha
[10:13:20] <megal0maniac> Malinuss: The connection is dead simple. Makes a lot of sense if you know how VGA works. The timing, on the other hand...
[10:13:49] <Malinuss> megal0maniac, well you need to understand how timers work?
[10:13:52] <OndraSter> talking about serial - I think that xmega (and maybe some megas too) have got automatic baud rate detection
[10:13:56] <Essobi> Oh wait... that's the opposite of what I wanted..
[10:14:07] <Essobi> But that's neat.. it'll drive a terminal with ANSI output.
[10:14:33] <Malinuss> megal0maniac, if you understand timers, it shouldn't be that hard to hit the right values, using them....
[10:22:23] <Malinuss> megal0maniac, try and check this out too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGhsN9GWh48
[10:22:40] <Malinuss> >warning - very loud weaboo music
[10:28:03] <theBear> did somebody say weaboo ? i'm on it
[10:28:05] <OndraSter> weaboo?
[10:29:12] <theBear> i don't like it, the pcb has a stupid word written down the middle of it
[10:31:14] <Malinuss> theBear, well use your own pcb board, or breadboard, not the point...
[10:31:42] <theBear> i know, but i'm also against technical information in video form... the music was nice tho
[10:31:55] <OndraSter> thehell is the music? :D
[10:32:06] <OndraSter> japanese pop?
[10:32:10] <megal0maniac> I'm considering an xmega64d6
[10:32:20] <megal0maniac> *xmega64d4
[10:32:25] <OndraSter> :)
[10:32:27] <OndraSter> not a bad chip
[10:32:33] <OndraSter> I have got 32 kB version here
[10:32:35] <megal0maniac> Maybe it'll do a better job at it
[10:32:41] <OndraSter> than mega? sure
[10:32:42] <OndraSter> OC it :P
[10:32:50] <OndraSter> or grab a sample from atmel of some a4u series
[10:32:56] <OndraSter> they 100% run at 48MHz
[10:32:59] <OndraSter> because USB
[10:33:26] <megal0maniac> Which is funny that max operating frequency is 32mhz
[10:33:44] <theBear> hehe
[10:33:51] <OndraSter> yeah
[10:33:58] <OndraSter> they should have been specced at 48MHz @ 3.3V
[10:34:00] <OndraSter> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s1ZrVJKsUg
[10:34:01] <OndraSter> lol
[10:34:03] <Malinuss> theBear, was there any technical infromation in that video? I saw it as a demo presentation.....
[10:34:05] <OndraSter> what an awful thing
[10:34:44] <theBear> Malinuss, i didn't watch it, just listened and glanced the pcb, just a comment, recently there's far too much time wasted with videos that should be a couple schems and paragraphs on a static page
[10:35:05] <megal0maniac> "Everything looks like total crap"
[10:36:40] <megal0maniac> I was considering doing something similar, decoding signals from the CAN bus
[10:36:48] <Malinuss> theBear, hahaha, enjoy reading description of how cool your friends 32x32x32 LED matrix animation looks like, instead of watching a video. Great logic ;)
[10:37:37] <megal0maniac> But since my car has a carb and not injectors, I'm sceptical of how much info it'll give me...
[10:37:52] <theBear> watching an led matrix isn't technical information, how to drive/program one, that's technical information
[10:38:09] <megal0maniac> Malinuss: Great logic :P
[10:40:16] <Malinuss> theBear, well the video I linked to was like I've said, mairly to show what kind of output a 8-bit uC was capable of, to a VGA screen... Not to show technical informations..
[10:40:48] <theBear> i'm just bitter about them recently, relax
[10:42:40] <megal0maniac> I'm bitter about youtube because this iMac hates it
[10:43:08] <theBear> yeah, i'm not real happy the way my audio has been skipping on flash the last few weeks, but meh
[10:43:20] <theBear> i got more important things to be unhappy about at the moment :)
[10:45:31] <Malinuss> theBear, haha sorry :D
[10:46:04] <megal0maniac> CapnKernel: ping
[10:46:04] <Amadiro> theBear, try youtubes html5 version (youtube.com/html5 or so), if you have a compatible browser
[10:46:25] <Amadiro> that way you can watch most youtube videos without involving the laggy, buggy, battery-draining flash-player
[10:46:34] <hackvana> megal0maniac: hi
[10:46:44] <theBear> Amadiro, i probly should, but that doesn't cover all those other vimeos and things (which have been grumpy on this machine for even longer)
[10:47:13] <Amadiro> theBear, I think vimeo has html5 support too, I can watch vimeo videos on my android device
[10:47:21] <Amadiro> you just have to force it by disabling flash player
[10:48:41] <theBear> Amadiro, even little embedded ones in random pages ?
[10:48:48] <Amadiro> theBear, don't know
[10:48:51] <theBear> and how do you disable flash ? freeze it or something ?
[10:49:24] <Amadiro> theBear, I use chromium, and I have flash globally set to "ask", which means I only get gray boxes displayed, and I have to rightclick and then "enable this flash applet" to activate it
[10:50:02] <theBear> chromium eh ? that err, made by someone starting with g ? cos i try to avoid their stuff, specially browsers
[10:50:14] <Amadiro> theBear, it's an open-source project
[10:50:23] <Amadiro> but yes, it's initiated and mainly developed by google
[10:52:36] <theBear> hmm, i might have a look, quality of various other browsers in droid land seems to fluctuate a lot
[10:53:36] <Amadiro> I'm not really surfing the web on my android device a whole lot, but last time I tested all available browsers for my desktop, no other came even near the performance and stability chromium gives me.
[10:53:50] <Amadiro> But then, I haven't kept up with recent developments in firefox, they seem to have changed a lot of things lately
[10:54:01] <Amadiro> but then, they always promise a lot of things...
[10:55:51] <theBear> i don't do much, but even using the same online banking page things change week to week.... doesn't help that they're recently re-implemented auto-dash-adding for the card number, that has never been reliable on any browser or os (well, over the last 10 years or so, it usually works in 1 or 2 browser/versions out of ALL that are commonly used)...
[10:56:30] <OndraSter> does it work in Opera?
[10:56:37] <OndraSter> :P
[10:57:07] <theBear> haven't tried this week, but, sometimes :)
[10:57:14] <OndraSter> Opera <3
[10:57:35] <megal0maniac> Opera?
[10:57:39] <megal0maniac> No thanks
[10:57:39] <OndraSter> yes
[10:57:41] <OndraSter> lol
[10:57:41] <theBear> it's not so much about working, as being tricky to use, like having to manually remove/shuffle auto-added dashes as they arrive in the wrong places
[10:57:58] <theBear> or being able to use the hw keyboard and/or the soft one, vs only one or the other mapping correctly
[11:01:38] <megal0maniac> What is the simplest way to switch 12V@1A using a digital output on an AVR using transistors?
[11:02:18] <OndraSter> transistors?
[11:02:22] <OndraSter> get a relay and a diode :)
[11:02:41] <megal0maniac> But the coil current is >40mA
[11:03:34] <theBear> you'll need a darlington to cut down on that much with a transistor.. maybe you want a fet ?
[11:03:44] <megal0maniac> fet sounds good
[11:04:06] <megal0maniac> I want minimal components and differing switched and logic voltages
[11:04:41] <megal0maniac> What about those motor driver ICs?
[11:05:06] <megal0maniac> http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/sn754410.pdf
[11:06:44] <theBear> they work, kinda overkill for most things, what you driving, and how many of it ?
[11:06:51] <megal0maniac> Can they be used for anything? Or are they only really fit for motors?
[11:07:28] <theBear> pretty much anything, half bridge is just a pushpull stage really, look at the equiv. schem on about page 2
[11:07:42] <megal0maniac> theBear: I don't know yet. But in a number of my mental designs, it's been the one thing I haven't figured out the nicest solution for
[11:09:23] <megal0maniac> Is there an easy way to achieve the same thing, but for only 1 channel?
[11:11:48] <megal0maniac> There's darlington, but that switches whatever the logic voltage is
[11:17:11] <megal0maniac> Diode an 2n222?
[11:19:01] <theBear> err, no it doesn't
[11:19:11] <theBear> not if yer doing low side switching
[11:19:41] <theBear> and even high side you can go for pullup/open collector drive
[11:28:07] * megal0maniac needs to learn transistors more
[11:28:19] <megal0maniac> I'll try low side
[11:28:43] <megal0maniac> Do intel CPU fans require a pwm signal to turn? Or will they run at full speed without it
[11:28:59] <OndraSter> pwm?
[11:29:01] <OndraSter> oh
[11:29:03] <OndraSter> fans
[11:29:04] <OndraSter> no
[11:29:17] <megal0maniac> No to what? I asked 2 questions :)
[11:29:34] <OndraSter> they will run standalone
[11:30:24] <Amadiro> megal0maniac, DC is a special-case of PWM, so anything that accepts the full PWM range would accept just plain DC.
[11:31:23] <megal0maniac> The guy who's asking is using two 9v batteries, so I'm reluctant to tell him to pull the control line high :/
[11:35:45] <theBear> usually that signal is just driving a fet, with a highside driver on it
[11:35:58] <theBear> and two 9v batteries is WAY too much, it'll cook
[11:36:20] <theBear> gnight
[11:36:55] <megal0maniac> Goodnight :)
[11:37:00] <megal0maniac> Thanks
[11:57:41] <tld> Yay, msop10 breakouts came in mail. Finally I can solder up my AD7988s. :)
[11:59:10] <megal0maniac> tld: How long did it take?
[11:59:47] <tld> megal0maniac: 3-4 months between getting them, and remembering to order breakout boards, then a week shipping from thailand to Norway.
[11:59:47] <tld> :-P
[12:00:06] <tld> (aka; user error)
[12:00:19] <OndraSter> epic fail :D
[12:00:40] <tld> Actually, I've started to order from Thailand whenever I can. It's fast to Norway than China - by far - and often faster than from UK and US.
[12:00:48] <tld> Naah, not epic fail. Just D'oh-fail.
[12:01:37] <tld> I thought I had some breakouts with the right pitch, and didn't realize I needed to order any before time came to solder up the chips. I should probably just keep a stockpile of breakouts.
[12:01:44] <megal0maniac> tld: I was wondering, because I've got like 4 orders that I'm still waiting for, and it's taking longer than usual...
[12:01:54] <tld> from where?
[12:01:57] <megal0maniac> My DX order is on 62 days
[12:02:03] <tld> ahh, DX. :(
[12:02:38] <tld> Latest word seems to be that delays *were* due to "China-festival", but that China Post is now checking *every* package going through customs, so delay might last.
[12:02:52] <tld> 62 days is pretty horrible though, if it's 62 days after it shipped from DX.
[12:03:16] <megal0maniac> The rest are from Hong Kong on ebay. Not more than a month, yet. Just longer than usual
[12:03:21] <tld> I'm leaning more and more towards dropping things that come through China Post, only ordering from china with love-stuffs if they send with hong kong post.
[12:03:29] <megal0maniac> And yeah. 62 days since shipping
[12:03:34] <tld> urk.
[12:03:46] <OndraSter> love-stuffs?
[12:03:51] <tld> "From China with love".
[12:04:47] <tld> (as oppsed to "From Russia with love"… besides, a lot of Chinese sellers are shipping gift-wrapped things, in jewlery boxes, to have it pass through our customs as gift… so "From China with love" kinda fits… )
[12:05:07] <megal0maniac> Yeah, I've noticed the "gift" thing
[12:05:32] <megal0maniac> Although the closest thing that is legitimate is "commercial samples"
[12:07:39] <tld> I don't really care too much. The value is low enough that I wouldn't pay taxes or fees anyway, and it's only fraud if it's done to get your out of something you should actually pay in the first place.
[12:08:03] <tld> I'm guessing customs-people might frown upon it though, and perhaps be extra strict with those countries or some such.
[12:08:22] <tld> At this point, I suspect I'm on a white-list of people they've given up on, and that they're just shoveling my stuff through. ;)
[12:09:24] <megal0maniac> I need to get on that white list :P
[12:11:41] <tld> got to go do homework with kid. For her, reading homework, for me, USB bandwidth homework… bbiab.
[12:21:14] <megal0maniac> Oh goody. DX live chat is online
[12:21:31] <megal0maniac> This will be interesting. No doubt a waste of time, but interesting
[12:43:09] <megal0maniac> OndraSter: Might start making my own pcbs on... wood or something
[12:43:09] <megal0maniac> http://www.bareconductive.com/store/products/bare-paint-pen
[12:43:51] <OndraSter> wow nice :D
[12:44:39] * megal0maniac wonders if it can be applied in thin enough tracks for tqfp
[12:44:50] <OndraSter> you tell us :P
[12:45:10] <megal0maniac> That would be pretty amazing
[12:45:28] <OndraSter> how much will you do? 5 boards? 10 boards? :D
[12:47:05] <megal0maniac> Probably just 1
[12:47:08] <megal0maniac> http://bareconductive.com/file/painted-button-1-jpg
[12:47:14] <megal0maniac> Doesn't look good for fine stuff...
[12:48:32] <OndraSter> if I could guess I would say it looks like..
[12:48:32] <OndraSter> well
[14:22:51] <OndraVPS> that moment when the internet goes down
[14:23:17] <OndraVPS> and you tell yourself "oh well, I will read thedailywtf"
[14:23:37] <OndraVPS> .. and then youbrealize that the internet is still down.
[14:29:09] <Malinuss> OndraVPS, I sit and read the datasheet pdf then, haha...
[14:31:23] <inkjetunito> &quit qqqq
[14:52:59] <OndraVPS> malinuss, too bad I know what I need to know ... :D
[15:03:48] <Malinuss> yay http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPuxeqBrus4 hehe
[15:11:59] <OndraVPS> chmpf
[15:12:01] <OndraVPS> my internet is STILL down
[15:12:53] <Malinuss> no it isnt OndraVPS
[15:13:00] <Malinuss> you are here ;D
[15:16:10] <OndraVPS> that is my VPS
[15:16:13] <OndraVPS> to which I am connected via SSH
[15:16:19] <OndraVPS> and I re-routed my PC via my phone
[15:16:23] <Malinuss> oh hehe
[15:16:27] <OndraVPS> see, I have got this awesome thing - two routers :)
[15:16:29] <OndraVPS> two wifi routers even
[15:16:39] <OndraVPS> one is connected on WAN to my ISP, one is connected to my phone
[15:16:45] <OndraVPS> and when I enable wifi hotspot on my phone the router connects to it
[15:16:51] <OndraVPS> and I just set gateway on my PC :)
[15:36:17] <OndraVPS> entertain me maybe?
[15:36:30] <OndraVPS> I am getting some horrible pings and speeds :)
[15:36:48] <agile_aardvark> http://eevblog.com/images/projects/uRuler.jpg
[15:59:35] <OndraVPS> foo
[15:59:39] <OndraVPS> ... still alive
[16:02:36] <Steffanx> You really can't live without us, can you OndraVPS ?
[16:05:40] <OndraVPS> no
[16:09:01] <Steffanx> :)
[16:19:14] <iSaleK> How can I calculate how many times does FOR in a FOR loop have to be executed to get delay_1ms in code?
[16:19:31] <iSaleK> or delay_ms(int miliseconds)
[16:20:27] <Malinuss> iSaleK, look in the datasheet, and see how many cycles each command takes, that would require you to use asm though...'
[16:20:39] <Malinuss> iSaleK, normally you would just use a timer for that
[16:21:37] <iSaleK> Malinuss I know but I want to halt the code execution for some time so I need in code delay_ms()
[16:21:58] <Malinuss> iSaleK, yes - use a timer for that
[16:22:10] <iSaleK> I don't need it to be exactly 1ms since I'll be using it for delay 500 or 1000ms
[16:22:16] <Malinuss> iSaleK, if you want I can show you mine delay_ms function
[16:22:34] <iSaleK> so if it's 1200 or so it's going to be fine :)
[16:22:47] <iSaleK> Malinuss if you can that would be great, thanks :)
[16:25:48] <Malinuss> iSaleK, http://pastebin.com/Tg0J85ZN you are free to ask
[16:26:41] <iSaleK> Thanks, I'll look into it and try to customize it :)
[16:27:25] <Malinuss> iSaleK, bzzz wrong answer
[16:27:44] <Malinuss> " I'll look into it and try to understand it" was the right answer
[16:28:08] <Malinuss> :)
[16:28:08] <OndraVPS> heh
[16:28:49] <iSaleK> hehe :)
[16:29:02] <iSaleK> I'll do it first, after that I'll try to customize it :D
[16:29:07] <iSaleK> thanks :)
[16:30:49] <OndraVPS> huh
[16:30:54] <OndraVPS> I somehow moved irssi into background
[17:11:14] <OndraVPS> no internet for me today appearantly
[17:11:14] <OndraVPS> gn
[20:05:26] <TechIsCool> So I got my atxmega32a4u parts in a a 2lb bag lol
[20:06:53] <AR_> prove it?
[20:11:03] <TechIsCool> AR_: http://techiscool.com/Pictures/Projects/10w_led/IMG_2489.JPG
[20:11:08] <TechIsCool> 6 chips lol
[20:11:39] <AR_> lol
[20:11:49] <TechIsCool> bag measures length 16 inches x 9 inches
[20:17:38] <Tom_itx> they wanted to protect them for you
[20:18:43] <TechIsCool> Tom_itx: I am just glad it was flat rate shipping not pay by the pound
[20:31:55] <Tom_itx> TechIsCool, got a board for em yet?
[20:38:05] <Casper> but you did paid for it, indirectly
[20:38:16] <Casper> and also for the packing
[20:55:36] <TechIsCool> Tom_itx: In the virual yes but not printed yet
[20:55:57] <TechIsCool> Casper: Yes that is corerect but don't we pay for everything somehow in this world.
[20:57:08] <TechIsCool> Tom_itx: http://www.techiscool.com/eagle/v3/
[21:02:30] <Tom_itx> what are you making?
[21:28:11] <abcminiuser> Oh noes, crazy time zones again
[21:29:13] <Tom_itx> dude
[21:29:26] <Tom_itx> you been awol quite a while
[21:30:06] <abcminiuser> Yeah the router at my Norwegian place doesn't like free node
[21:30:15] <abcminiuser> Or rather the other way around
[21:30:25] <abcminiuser> I'm on holidays back in aus at the moment
[21:30:31] <abcminiuser> What have I missed?
[21:30:41] <Tom_itx> lots of xmega talk
[21:30:47] <abcminiuser> Woo
[21:30:53] <Tom_itx> zlog
[21:30:56] <Tom_itx> it's all there
[21:31:38] <Tom_itx> Ondra's been working on a usb stack
[21:31:50] <abcminiuser> Oh neat
[21:32:02] <Tom_itx> i think he hit a wall and was looking for you
[21:33:14] <abcminiuser> Well it sucks typing in on a crappy virtual keyboard but I'll try to keep this tablet signed in
[21:33:28] <Tom_itx> he's likely asleep now
[21:33:38] <abcminiuser> No excuse...
[21:33:40] <Tom_itx> with crappy internet as well
[21:33:48] <abcminiuser> Yay company
[21:34:48] <Tom_itx> didn't you write a bootloader for the xplain board?
[21:34:58] <Tom_itx> or a serial downloader thingy or something/
[21:34:59] <Tom_itx> ?
[21:35:56] <abcminiuser> I made a lufa firmware for the avr8 on it that can reprogram the xmega
[21:36:07] <abcminiuser> Uses my programmer firmware you use
[21:36:29] <abcminiuser> There's an official atmel xmega USB bootloader too
[21:37:04] <Tom_itx> somebody was trying to use it to program the xplain on it
[21:37:08] <Tom_itx> xmega*