#avr | Logs for 2012-08-31

Back
[01:24:23] <OndraSterver> <jadew> I was wrong about t13, it can't fit the code
[01:24:26] <OndraSterver> are you serious
[01:24:33] <OndraSterver> tiny13 can fit bloody 512 instructions!
[01:25:14] <jadew> it's barely enough for the 1-wire code
[01:25:17] <agile_aardvark> less when they actually have parameters :P
[01:25:41] <OndraSterver> jadew, why not attiny23 or 26 or something then? :P
[01:25:47] <OndraSterver> also, why are you using C on such tiny device
[01:26:02] <jadew> I'm using t25 now
[01:26:09] <jadew> I wanted to go for the cheappest
[01:26:19] <OndraSterver> that is tiny4 or something similar :D
[01:26:40] <jadew> and tbh, I don't think I would have pulled out that logic in less code than the compiler generated from my 400 lines of code
[01:26:42] <OndraSterver> how much was the DHT11?
[01:26:48] <OndraSterver> 400 lines
[01:26:49] <OndraSterver> of code
[01:26:51] <OndraSterver> duh
[01:26:58] <jadew> the DHT is not ready
[01:27:10] <OndraSterver> I mean, how much $$
[01:27:10] <jadew> I found a bug in another library and I'm trying to debug that
[01:27:27] <jadew> don't remember, it took a month to arrive
[01:27:37] <jadew> around $1.5 I think
[01:27:39] <OndraSterver> hmm
[01:27:47] <OndraSterver> I am wondering whether it is worth it compared to ds18b20
[01:27:52] <OndraSterver> although it does humidity as well, right?
[01:28:01] <jadew> yeah
[01:28:05] <jadew> that's what I like about them
[01:28:13] <jadew> I have several DS1820 around here
[01:28:19] <OndraSterver> mkay
[01:28:19] <OndraSterver> I should buy one or two as well
[01:28:19] <OndraSterver> DHT11s
[01:28:28] <jadew> yeah, I think they'll be fun to play with
[01:28:30] <OndraSterver> where did you buy from? ebay?
[01:28:55] <jadew> yeah, but as it turned out after I made my order, I actually bouth them from buyincoins
[01:29:02] <OndraSterver> heh
[01:29:10] <OndraSterver> how many you bought?
[01:29:14] <jadew> 4
[01:29:33] * GuShH_ throws some coins at jadew
[01:30:03] <OndraSterver> what bugs me is that you can not fit whole NRF24L01 into 8 pinned attiny :(
[01:30:04] <jadew> thanks, I can give you my paypal account, you can throw some in there as well :P
[01:30:14] <GuShH_> o.o
[01:30:21] <jadew> what's NRF24L01?
[01:30:29] <agile_aardvark> isnt that an rf chip?
[01:30:29] <OndraSterver> supercheap wireless
[01:30:31] <OndraSterver> yes
[01:30:42] <OndraSterver> we are talking like $2.5 per assembled module
[01:30:56] <OndraSterver> although
[01:30:59] <OndraSterver> you need 5 IOs
[01:31:05] <OndraSterver> maybe
[01:31:06] <OndraSterver> 4
[01:31:14] <agile_aardvark> 8pinners have 6 i/os.
[01:31:26] <GuShH_> OndraSterver: DHT11 is as low precision as it gets though.
[01:31:34] <jadew> and the code doesn't fit on a t85?
[01:31:41] <GuShH_> it's basically a glorified dew sensor
[01:31:48] <jadew> lol
[01:31:53] <agile_aardvark> GuShH_: haha
[01:31:56] <OndraSterver> jadew, I haven't written the software yet
[01:31:56] <GuShH_> designed for applications where "is it humid?" is all that matters
[01:32:24] <agile_aardvark> µC: are you wet yet? DHT11: dunno
[01:32:35] <GuShH_> "I'll tell you in a few hours"
[01:32:37] <OndraSterver> :D
[01:32:41] <agile_aardvark> heh
[01:32:49] <GuShH_> agile_aardvark: "I'll keep fingering then"
[01:32:50] * GuShH_ runs
[01:34:34] <amee2woof> GuShH_: yeah, like 2 seconds. and did they rent the fursuits from the CSI prop stock or what?
[01:34:46] <GuShH_> amee2woof: totally.
[01:35:01] <GuShH_> http://www.goodluckbuy.com/1pcs-us-020-ultrasonic-module-distance-measuring-transducer-sensor-dc-5v.html I remember when these used to be expensive...
[01:35:26] <GuShH_> and boy was it "the best thing ever" when polaroids came with ultrasonic auto-focus!
[01:35:27] <amee2woof> these were like the shittiest made suits i've seen in like ever
[01:35:40] <GuShH_> amee2woof: are you a fursuit expert all of a sudden?
[01:35:56] <GuShH_> it's a russian spoof videoclip of a girl living in the ghetto
[01:36:03] <amee2woof> i have this thing called eyes? you can look at things with them
[01:36:24] <amee2woof> if it looks shitty, then it probably looks shitty, ya know.
[01:36:26] <GuShH_> to me it looked like two grown ass men on fursuits
[01:36:44] <GuShH_> must be some potent weed though
[01:39:04] <amee2woof> http://www.donthugcacti.com/fursuit/ << thats what some well made ones look like, for example
[01:39:19] <amee2woof> the shit on CSI looks like a highschool mascot costume lol
[01:39:46] <GuShH_> if I saw someone wearing that I'd chase them around with a 2x4
[01:40:03] <amee2woof> lololol
[01:40:13] <OndraSterver> are we yiffing again
[01:40:22] <amee2woof> GuShH_ is into that
[01:40:23] <GuShH_> hit them first, question later.
[01:40:25] <GuShH_> I'm not
[01:40:30] <amee2woof> yes you are
[01:40:53] <GuShH_> how come?
[01:41:05] <GuShH_> you are the one who knows about furry conventions in MY country
[01:41:07] <amee2woof> just admit it, there is a racoon suit under your bed
[01:41:24] <GuShH_> no
[01:41:32] <amee2woof> thats what the wolf said too
[01:41:53] <agile_aardvark> amee2woof: no, he wears that raccoon suit under that human suit
[01:42:02] <amee2woof> XD
[01:42:22] <GuShH_> http://www.donthugcacti.com/fursuit/index.php/Foxes/Suzi-Vixen/Suzi-Vixen-06 <<< I bet underneath they're all virgin guys in their 40s
[01:43:01] <amee2woof> no, i don't think all fursuiters are representative argentinian males
[01:43:26] <GuShH_> when exactly did you turn into a furpile lover?
[01:43:36] <amee2woof> :)
[01:44:28] <amee2woof> not quite sure, actually. suppose that means quite a while ago then
[01:47:44] <GuShH_> http://www.donthugcacti.com/fursuit/index.php/Group-Photos/Group-06
[01:47:47] <GuShH_> figures... that's what they'd drive.
[01:48:31] <GuShH_> such weird shit, can't they do something productive instead?
[01:48:56] <agile_aardvark> i'm pretty sure they do something productive in their work time.. after all, good fur suits are expensive :P
[01:49:07] <GuShH_> I think at least there's enough energy in one fursuit to keep a small house warm during the winter, so that's an application for the furry.
[01:49:09] <amee2woof> exactly ;)
[01:49:21] <megal0maniac> There's no mention of HVPP in the atmega328 datasheet, only parallel programming. Is the "HV" part implicit?
[01:49:31] <GuShH_> agile_aardvark: oh so you're another one of those freaks
[01:49:34] <amee2woof> i've heard of a furry skiing meet, actually
[01:49:36] <agile_aardvark> nope
[01:50:51] <GuShH_> why would that crap be expensive, that type of fabric isn't. they're just paying for it, like the bondage retards pay for latex suits.
[01:51:10] <GuShH_> and most of them would be made in china by now.
[01:52:00] <amee2woof> the materials are relatively cheap, but they're pretty much all custom made because almost no two people have the same character they want to portray
[01:52:24] <amee2woof> so the most expensive point of a suit commission is the labor time
[01:52:33] <GuShH_> it's cheap ass material and any gay person could put one together.
[01:52:41] <GuShH_> Make it work!
[01:53:04] <amee2woof> well, if you do that then you get one of the shitty looking suits like in that CSI ep ;)
[01:53:12] <GuShH_> amee2woof: we can solve that by spray painting some random shit, I mean art on the chinese ones.
[01:53:29] <GuShH_> then you sell the "fursona" to some weirdo.
[01:53:38] <amee2woof> actually, people do use airbrush for painting fur pattern sometimes
[01:53:59] <GuShH_> no shit.
[01:54:24] <GuShH_> I paint flames, they fool around in kitty suits and pretend to scratch the walls.
[01:54:35] <GuShH_> different applications, one is cool the other is sad.
[01:54:36] <amee2woof> and it usually is the other way around. people have an existing character and want to have that as a suit
[01:54:53] * megal0maniac bumps
[01:54:55] <GuShH_> it's better if you sell them the whole package
[01:55:11] <GuShH_> "you look better with orange ears and "slut" written on your tummy, sir"
[01:55:41] <amee2woof> if you cbf to make your own, i'm sure lots of people will let you commission an entire character
[01:56:01] <agile_aardvark> there are
[01:56:07] <GuShH_> because you can't deny one of the most primal needs will meet with fursuit and all.
[01:56:41] <GuShH_> so whenever someone says "furrys are non sexual" they're full of it.
[01:57:12] <amee2woof> oh, furries do have sex. just not the way you think ;)
[01:57:23] <GuShH_> I didn't mention group sex.
[01:57:41] <GuShH_> But I do get a sense they might need a bigger washing machine than most people would have.
[01:57:47] <agile_aardvark> nothing wrong with people having sex, no?
[01:58:11] <GuShH_> So anything said here has to be wrong?
[01:58:17] <agile_aardvark> no
[01:58:24] <GuShH_> If I say religion, then that's wrong too.
[01:58:30] <GuShH_> puppies too I guess.
[01:58:32] <GuShH_> ban them all
[01:58:32] <amee2woof> um... try machine washing someone's suit and the furry lynchmob will come and get you lol
[01:58:55] <GuShH_> oh it's like leather?
[01:58:55] <agile_aardvark> amee2woof: why? because the smell wears off?
[01:59:00] <GuShH_> hahaha
[01:59:01] <agile_aardvark> hair falls out?
[01:59:10] <GuShH_> c** stains shall remain.
[01:59:30] <GuShH_> I just would imagine they would rather have a washed suit than a dry pointy smelly suit.
[01:59:50] <amee2woof> agile_aardvark: yeah, the fur doesn't take that very well. and if there are any airbrushed details that doesn't either
[01:59:59] <GuShH_> if it's ever raining and I see a furry I will make sure they get extra wet
[02:00:22] <amee2woof> how exactly you need to clean it depends a lot on how it is made
[02:01:17] <ziph> Has my IRC client screwed up and joined some channel that isn't #avr?
[02:01:56] <GuShH_> ziph: hahahaha
[02:01:58] <amee2woof> no, but GuShH_ is a furry in training now
[02:02:02] <GuShH_> I'm not.
[02:02:32] <ziph> Can we get back on topic? i.e. why Linux is better than Windows.
[02:02:49] <amee2woof> ziph: install windows on an AVR and we'll talk
[02:03:04] <GuShH_> amee2woof: see this piece of hot steel? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3L--EqOwOI
[02:03:15] <GuShH_> that's what I'd use against those furries.
[02:03:42] <amee2woof> lol
[02:04:20] <ziph> amee2woof: I definitely think GuShH_ has thought about all this for too long not to be a furry.
[02:04:34] <GuShH_> quite neat though
[02:04:36] <amee2woof> my thought exactly *nod*
[02:04:37] <ziph> amee2woof: a masochist furry based on that last link.
[02:04:38] <GuShH_> the metal working.
[02:06:34] <amee2woof> oh yeah, baby. work that metal.
[02:07:08] <amee2woof> i bet you blacksmiths do kinky things with that anvil after work, right?
[02:07:16] <agile_aardvark> yeah, work that metal! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icIwKaci3MI
[02:07:18] <agile_aardvark> :D
[02:07:19] <GuShH_> at least it's more productive than a bunch of grown ass men wearing fursuits
[02:07:27] <GuShH_> amee2woof: totally
[02:07:49] <GuShH_> if the simpsons has taught you anything is that all blacksmiths are gay.
[02:08:15] <ziph> amee2woof: Apparently he specifically likes ass-men in fursuits.
[02:08:27] <GuShH_> sigh
[02:08:48] <amee2woof> good that i didn't watch simpsons :)
[02:08:49] <agile_aardvark> if you're a blacksmith: one question. why do they hit the anvil with every n-th hammer strike instead of the piece they're working on, on purpose?
[02:10:03] <amee2woof> GuShH_ shall venture on to conquer the adult movie market with furry blacksmith porn
[02:10:04] <GuShH_> mainly because it gets the poop off the hammer head
[02:10:54] <GuShH_> it's different when you work the metal cold, you stretch it by hitting sideways but it seems as if you aren't working the metal at all, to the untrained eye
[02:11:06] <GuShH_> amee2woof: I shall?
[02:11:12] <amee2woof> entirely
[02:12:45] <GuShH_> amee2woof: if you are joining two pieces together and you have to flip the part, if you keep striking you don't have to use a lot of force to "start" striking again, too.
[02:13:01] <GuShH_> some of those hammers are not exactly lightweight
[02:13:22] <GuShH_> otoh I've never seen that tiny forming hammer type of tool they were using, quite nice
[02:13:31] * GuShH_ is not a blacksmith
[02:14:27] <GuShH_> I wonder if there's still a lot of people working iron, after all there are machines that automate most if not all they used to do
[05:36:05] <megal0maniac> Tom_itx: There's no mention of HVPP in the atmega328 datasheet, only parallel programming. Is the "HV" part implicit?
[05:40:09] <megal0maniac> (Or @anyone else who is here)
[06:10:12] <megal0maniac> It looks like it is... So Parallel and HVPP are interchangeable.
[06:10:43] <megal0maniac> (Or the terms are, in the context of programming 8bit AVRs)
[06:13:41] <megal0maniac> Another question, though. I can't seem to figure out the difference between a "Level translator" (2N7002) and a HEX non-inverting buffer. (74HC4050) Do they not both do the same job of converting 5V logic to 3V3 logic, or the other way around?
[06:13:46] <megal0maniac> zlog
[06:33:39] <Tom_itx> one inverts the logic level and another lowers it
[06:59:54] <megal0maniac> Tom_itx: But the chip is a "non-inverting" type
[07:00:18] <megal0maniac> Or does the 2N7002 mosfet invert?
[07:01:22] * megal0maniac doesn't think mosfets invert...
[07:19:31] <amee2woof> you can make an inverter from a single MOSFET
[07:19:36] <amee2woof> but it isn't very efficient
[07:49:30] <megal0maniac> amee2woof: I'm just a little confused about the difference in application. I've been told that I should use a level translator when interfacing with another device with its own power supply. I have the 74HC4050 chip and wondered whether that would be suitable
[09:01:01] <GuShH_> megal0maniac: at what speed are you transfering data?
[09:02:38] <megal0maniac> Theoretically, 115200 baud serial. Have the 4050 for use with a microsd card though
[09:03:05] <GuShH_> don't see why mosfets can't work for you...
[09:03:37] <megal0maniac> But will the 4050 work? I have that, I don't have mosfets
[09:03:49] <Casper> does seeeed do via? I see no mention for or against... what about plated thru-holes?
[09:04:11] <GuShH_> megal0maniac: depends on your levels
[09:04:28] <GuShH_> Casper: email them, they should answer fairly quick
[09:04:32] <megal0maniac> TTL...
[09:04:50] <megal0maniac> Casper: Also check with CapnKernel. He makes boards
[09:05:04] <Casper> will check
[09:05:10] <Casper> but now.... werk time, bbl
[09:05:24] <megal0maniac> 0 - 3V
[09:05:26] <GuShH_> megal0maniac: check out the datasheet for this information. also keep in mind the input capacitances (ie can your gpio drive them at the given speed?)
[09:08:52] <megal0maniac> GuSsH_: Thing is, I don't know what I'm looking for. However, the original purpose for this chip was to use with an SPI interfaced micro SD card. SPI on the micro SD isn't 5V tolerant, so the 4050 is used between the AVR and the card
[09:09:11] <GuShH_> look at the transition times
[09:09:21] <GuShH_> determine whether the part is "fast enough" for your application
[09:10:17] <specing> 10 THz shifters FTW!
[09:10:58] <GuShH_> totally.
[09:11:35] <specing> the are over nine thousand gigahertz!
[09:12:11] <megal0maniac> Well if it works for SPI, then it should work for serial, right?
[09:13:49] <specing> ofcourse not
[09:14:11] <specing> serial does ternary transfer
[09:17:16] <megal0maniac> Meh. I'll try and decipher the datasheet :)
[09:17:55] <specing> *le sigh*
[09:18:47] <megal0maniac_> I'm still learning this stuff. I'll get there
[09:19:58] <megal0maniac_> Don't even know what ternary transfer is, but I'll find out soon.
[09:21:26] <specing> Im wondering what he'll find...
[11:26:56] <oinkoink-> arghh.. Why am I unable to modulate a laser diode in the mhz range?! :| - Diode is extracted from optical drive, so surely it can be driven at such high speeds.. MOSFET is speced at tON/tOFF = 10ns.. What am I doing wrong? I'm using this circuit: http://bit.ly/TlnYj0
[11:27:57] <oinkoink-> Modulating it in the ms range produces a faint light output.
[11:30:58] <specing> oinkoink-: are you using a fast enaugh timer?
[11:31:07] <oinkoink-> specing, timer?
[11:53:38] <GuShH_> oinkoink-: I doubt your gpio can drive the gate capacitance at those speeds...
[11:53:52] <GuShH_> did you actually calculate the peak current? it'll be higher than you think.
[11:54:37] <GuShH_> other than that, double-check your wiring and maybe use a regular LED for testing purposes.
[11:54:54] <oinkoink-> GuShH_, pardon my ignorance, but how/why would that be relevent? Isn't the mosfet switching ON when the AVR outputs +5v?
[11:55:36] <oinkoink-> I can turn it on/off just fine if I hold the delay between on and off for a few (~100) ms.
[11:55:42] <GuShH_> oinkoink-: because your io is only capable of supplying a few mA at any given point in time.
[11:56:10] <GuShH_> charging and discharging a capacitor at high speeds, even a few picofarads turns into several mA and even amps.
[11:56:45] <GuShH_> hence why mosfet gate drivers exist.
[11:56:56] <oinkoink-> gate drivers, eh
[11:57:06] <specing> maybe he would want to use a plain darlington instead
[11:57:19] <GuShH_> maybe so
[11:57:23] <oinkoink-> should I?
[11:57:26] <GuShH_> give it a go
[11:57:42] <oinkoink-> can the be found in the ns switching range?
[11:57:42] <GuShH_> also your 2n7000 is a signal fet
[11:57:49] <GuShH_> can they!
[11:58:06] <oinkoink-> I'll take that as a yes? :P
[11:58:13] <GuShH_> use a discrete pair...
[11:59:10] <GuShH_> oinkoink-: so the constant current source is set to what, 125mA?
[11:59:40] <GuShH_> have a high enough duty cycle and your little TO-92 signal fet will go poof.
[11:59:51] <GuShH_> specially if you can't drive the gate properly
[11:59:58] <GuShH_> (if you didn't already damage it)
[12:00:14] <GuShH_> also I will assume you had the leads the wrong way around too, just for good measure.
[12:00:19] <oinkoink-> GuShH_, hah
[12:00:27] <GuShH_> You see it's all wrong, starting by the ground symbol being sideways, damn it.
[12:00:53] <GuShH_> As a Gordon Ramsay would say... you filthy pig!
[12:01:24] <Steffanx> * + fucking
[12:01:30] <Steffanx> I mean *peeeeeep*
[12:01:40] <GuShH_> o.o
[12:01:45] <oinkoink-> Err, good obvservation, the mosfet is reversed on the schem, it's fine on the ground.
[12:01:57] <GuShH_> Steffanx: heh he always says that
[12:02:03] <GuShH_> and they say I'm the angry one!
[12:02:21] <oinkoink-> Gate seems to be driven properly (at ~100+ms) -- It doesn't output well when going beyond that.
[12:02:32] <oinkoink-> by beyond, I mean under.
[12:02:33] <GuShH_> because you can't supply the gate current
[12:02:59] <GuShH_> try specing's suggestion
[12:03:09] <GuShH_> the darlington will need a few uAs at best
[12:03:12] <oinkoink-> GuShH_, I thought mosfets cared little about current at the gate?
[12:03:14] <GuShH_> you just get a biggy drop
[12:03:23] <GuShH_> but you are dealing with CC
[12:03:41] <GuShH_> oinkoink-: it's basically a capacitor
[12:04:02] <oinkoink-> hm, so in other words, it sucks for fast switching, eh.
[12:04:16] <GuShH_> no.
[12:04:27] <GuShH_> driving it directly off a crappy GPIO sucks.
[12:04:35] <GuShH_> using the gpio to gate a mosfet driver, doesn't.
[12:04:49] <GuShH_> your gpio can supply what, 30mA absolute maximum
[12:04:55] <GuShH_> (not an avr guy...)
[12:05:08] <oinkoink-> 40, yea
[12:05:17] <GuShH_> well don't you ever design for absolute maximum values anyway
[12:05:37] <GuShH_> ignore them, better yet, divide them by two and take that as the value you could use, but you musn't.
[12:05:40] <GuShH_> don't be so chinese.
[12:11:06] <oinkoink-> darlington, eh
[12:11:09] <oinkoink-> I may haveone
[12:11:58] <oinkoink-> good ol uln2003
[12:13:23] <GuShH_> oinkoink-: otoh I still think you have a wiring error
[12:13:28] <GuShH_> or damaged components
[12:14:00] <oinkoink-> GuShH_, why so? It works when I do on/off (slowly) off the GPIO..
[12:30:00] <GuShH_> oinkoink-: well you'd be looking at about 120mA peak gate current assuming 25pF
[12:30:10] <GuShH_> don't you think that's way too much for your poor little gpio...
[12:30:24] <GuShH_> it "works" on slow speeds because it clamps and slowly charges the gate up
[12:30:35] <GuShH_> it just can't keep up at higher speeds, cannot deliver the inrush current.
[12:30:39] <oinkoink-> GuShH_, I had no idea that the external (S/D) current had any factor on the GPIO.
[12:30:49] <GuShH_> ?
[12:30:53] <GuShH_> you are push and pulling on the gate
[12:31:22] <GuShH_> I calculated roughly the 120mA value (128.2mA peak) assuming 25pF
[12:31:38] <GuShH_> if it's a coincidence that your current source is set to the same value, well... it's just that.
[12:32:00] <GuShH_> we're talking about the gate specifically, not the load.
[12:32:16] <GuShH_> anyway coffee time.
[12:32:18] <oinkoink-> GuShH_, I understand. I just had no clue that the mosfet worked in that way. I didn't know the driver's current had any role to play. I thought it switched when the voltage was above the treshhold value.
[12:32:47] <GuShH_> it more or less does, but there is a parasitic capacitance, which also appears on the output, not just the input
[12:32:55] <GuShH_> output is typically half of the input capacitance.
[12:33:12] <GuShH_> there are other parasitic effects too, but nvermind them at this stage.
[12:34:29] <oinkoink-> gotcha.
[12:34:31] <oinkoink-> thanks!
[12:36:34] <GuShH_> oinkoink-: dug up from my bookmarks in case you are interested http://ic.hqu.edu.cn/attach/teach/2007-03-12-Ling25%20MOSFET%20Capacitances.pdf
[12:36:58] <oinkoink-> hmm, a chinese ressource? :P
[12:37:14] <oinkoink-> thanks!
[12:38:01] <GuShH_> hey it's good enough. you'll find pretty much the same texts in most books
[12:38:27] <GuShH_> also just because the resource is hosted on a chinese university server doesn't mean it's going to be chinese quality :p
[12:38:28] * GuShH_ runs
[12:39:11] <GuShH_> merely understanding what's there and why it's there is good 'nuf for most design purposes.
[12:39:45] <GuShH_> You go deeper if a) forced to study it b) interested in semiconductor design :p
[12:50:37] <CoolBear> Any recomendations for a syntax highlighter editor in linux for AVR coding?
[13:03:41] <Landon> CoolBear: for C?
[13:03:56] <Landon> or are you looking for something that'll do a decent job with asm syntax too
[13:05:46] <CoolBear> Both would be preferable, but I'll settle for C
[13:19:44] <Landon> I really like Sublime Text
[13:19:53] <Landon> but it doesn't look like it has any highlighting for assembly off the bat
[13:34:27] <CoolBear> Sumblime Text looks sweet and all, but I'm not going to spend 59$ on it.
[14:05:23] <RikusW> The ATF697FF is the newest member of Atmel’s SPARC V8 processor family
[14:05:31] * RikusW didn't now Atmel had SPARC too
[14:10:02] <specing> CoolBear: vim
[14:18:50] <Steffanx> specing: bla
[14:27:03] <specing> Steffanx: works like charm
[14:27:18] <Steffanx> For you
[14:27:48] <RikusW> for me too
[14:27:52] <specing> for everyone using it
[14:28:31] <Steffanx> Ofcourse it works for everyone using it .. but not for everyone who tried it
[14:33:09] <specing> Tell me of a person who tried it and that it didn't work for him/her?
[14:33:31] <Steffanx> me :)
[14:34:54] <specing> Well then there must be something wrong with you
[14:35:19] <Steffanx> Sure
[15:17:45] <cyronin> vim holy war?
[15:18:38] <megal0maniac> zlog
[17:18:15] <jadew> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms9omzImFd4
[23:50:59] <Blecha> I am including stdint.h but I can't use uint8_t
[23:51:25] <Blecha> ‘uint8_t’ does not name a type
[23:57:47] <theBear> what does the t stand for ? (/me is outta practice)
[23:59:24] <Casper> Blecha: are you using the avr/stdint.h ?