#avr | Logs for 2012-05-04

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[00:49:50] <ferdna|afk> anyone alive right now?
[00:52:47] <Kevin`> no
[00:59:26] <ferdna|afk> oh
[00:59:34] <ferdna|afk> you are a living dead then? Kevin
[01:23:56] <CapnKernel> ferdna|afk: Brains! Brains!
[01:24:04] * CapnKernel is a zombie too
[01:24:30] <ferdna|afk> lol
[01:24:43] <ferdna|afk> hey CapnKernel did you see that video?
[01:24:55] <CapnKernel> About the acid etching?
[01:24:59] <CapnKernel> Yeah, awesome
[01:25:36] <CapnKernel> If you had a decent laser cutter, you could do the holes as well.
[01:26:14] <CapnKernel> (Otherwise, holes and tinning and silkscreen and 2-sides etc are a pain in the bum. Better get them made somewhere. Like with someone like.. me! :-) )
[01:27:57] <ferdna|afk> cool
[01:28:12] <ferdna|afk> your doing boards now?
[01:29:52] <CapnKernel> Yep. Tom_itx and cyanide have both received boards done by me.
[01:41:14] <mrfrenzy> are you back in china now?
[01:43:55] <CapnKernel> The plan is to head there at the end of this month. I'm doing PCBs at present.
[01:44:13] <CapnKernel> Couple of orders a week by word of mouth
[01:52:08] * ferdna|afk goes to bed... good night...
[03:43:44] <mitsakos> hello, i am using analog comperator to turn mcu in power save mode. I also use timer/counter2 interrupt to update an RTC. So the mcu after goes to sleep mode has to wake up in the first timer/counter2 overflow right?
[03:46:08] <amee2k> what is a good complementary pair of BJT types for low collector currents (<100mA avg, maybe 1-1.5A peak in few us long pulses) and that can do at least 120V collector voltage?
[03:47:37] <amee2k> if possible 150V would be nice to have some headroom, but i still need both an NPN and a PNP type
[04:03:39] <Tom_itx> http://www2.electronicproducts.com/LG_Display_Begins_Mass_Production_of_World_s_First_Plastic_E_Paper_Display-article-newsrc01_29_mar2012-html.aspx
[05:53:47] <inflex> Tom_itx: that's going to be awesome I hope
[05:54:46] <inflex> only thing is, it looks like they photoshopped the guy's thumb
[05:55:03] <inflex> yeah, they have
[05:55:26] * inflex wonders wth they'd do that
[14:07:16] <vectory__> why is every avr assembler guide written for studio? i dont have windows, but im not used to gnu-as either
[14:07:22] <vectory__> hihi, gnu-ass xD
[14:07:47] <asteve> vectory__: install vmware and run windows?
[14:08:09] <vectory__> if i had a working copy, i still wouldnt want to waste the time of setup
[14:08:24] <vectory__> although, might be quicker than accommodating with gas
[14:08:49] <vectory__> still, no windows serial key here
[14:09:15] <vectory__> maybe i should write c :/
[14:09:31] <OndraSter> isn't avr-asm same for all the platforms? :P
[14:09:38] <OndraSter> just as avr-gcc and avr-g++
[14:09:41] <vectory__> nope
[14:09:46] <OndraSter> huh
[14:09:53] <vectory__> different macro directives
[14:10:02] <Steffann> So the assembly is the same :)
[14:10:09] <vectory__> like .INCLUDE vs #include <...>
[14:10:17] <OndraSter> .include on windows as well
[14:10:46] <vectory__> yes in avrasm, but not in avr-as
[14:10:56] <vectory__> there its #include :S
[14:10:59] <OndraSter> oh
[14:11:00] <OndraSter> there are more!
[14:11:06] <vectory__> and .db isnt working either
[14:11:41] <asteve> .include?
[14:11:43] <asteve> the hell?
[14:12:05] <vectory__> .include is studio syntax, right?
[14:15:55] <specing> vectory__: AVRA on Unix provides a compatible assemble
[14:16:15] <specing> vectory__: Otherwise I would recommend you to stick to inline assembly
[14:16:54] <specing> vectory__: If you must code your entire project in assembly due to various reasons, then you can learn to use AVRA
[14:33:29] <vectory__> specing: great thanx
[14:33:47] <vectory__> another option to consider :3
[14:34:41] <vectory__> even installed it back when
[14:35:41] <vectory__> "almost compatible" ;(
[14:44:34] <razec> hi guys
[14:44:51] <razec> s there an 'easy' way to debug an arduino(atmega328p) in the software level?
[14:44:55] <razec> *Is
[14:45:11] <specing> debug as in ... see what it is executing?
[14:45:22] <razec> yes.. Exactly
[14:45:48] <specing> debugWire
[14:46:03] <specing> But you need more hardware
[14:46:12] <razec> My arduino has been conected in the USB cable.. I don't have jtag here..
[14:46:19] <razec> hummm
[14:47:33] <razec> specing: understood
[14:47:41] <razec> specing: But.. is possible to use serial monitor with avr-libc?
[14:47:45] <specing> Not sure if 328 supports JTAG
[14:48:02] <specing> serial monitor ... as in?
[14:48:14] <clever> somebody in here was reverse engineering debugWire
[14:48:20] <OndraSter> 328 has dW
[14:48:23] <clever> http://www.ruemohr.org/docs/debugwire.html
[14:48:45] <specing> rikusW is/did it
[14:50:03] <razec> good.. I'll dig more details... Guys, Thanks so much
[15:01:37] <OndraSter> watch out, I think he somehow managed to change signatures of two (three) atmegas! :D
[15:03:26] <Steffann> That was me
[15:03:32] <OndraSter> oh
[15:03:37] <OndraSter> still don't remember you guys here :D
[15:03:42] <Steffann> At least, I'm pretty sure i cleared two signatures with jtag
[15:04:21] <Steffann> They are still programmable with the -F flag of avrdude
[15:07:27] <caytchen> hey, I'm running avr-nm --size-sort on my ELF and I'm getting an entry: 000005ee b frame.1350. does that contribute to the size of the image burned into flash?
[15:08:04] <caytchen> its type is 'b' aka uninitialized data so it shouldn't right?
[19:47:22] <inflex> lo folks