#linuxcnc Logs

Sep 01 2025

12:00 AM * roycroft will be laboring part of the day, but for himself, not for the man
12:54 AM Deejay: moin
03:30 AM lcnc-relay: <meisterdippel@> moin
05:15 AM lcnc-relay: <techtematy@> moin
05:46 AM Tom_L: morning
06:56 AM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> spoke with hiwin, this is custom made ball screw 🙁
08:23 AM Tom_L: le_potato, did they have something to replace it with?
09:12 AM mrec: le_potato: which one? do you have pictures?
09:12 AM mrec: the local hiwin support said new custom hiwin ballscrews will take like 2-3 months
09:13 AM lcnc-relay: <ccatlett1984@> just custom end machining? or custom grind?
09:14 AM mrec: it's a ground ballscrew, but the pitch is pretty much standard.
09:17 AM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> mrec, tom_l: need custom made or replace everything
09:17 AM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> it will be easier to replace everything
09:18 AM Tom_L: probably cheaper too
09:20 AM mrec: I feel like the guys at the service company are weird, first they damaged the pilot hole by trying to remove the coupler then they sent me a video look the ballscrew is wobbly and it looks more wobbly the further we go to the end of it
09:21 AM mrec: they just used a puller to remove the fixture rings of the coupler, I was able to hammer them off carefully (most important was slowly and carefully hammering the ring off of it)
09:22 AM mrec: my problem was also I had no idea about that before
09:22 AM mrec: rather than using the pilot hole they should use the part of the ballscrew where the bearings are put on
09:38 AM JT-Cave: hmm forum seems to be down for me
09:40 AM lcnc-relay: <meisterdippel@> works for me
09:43 AM JT-Cave: https://pasteboard.co/qmF6isWYH0ew.png
09:54 AM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> so i need D 28, L 45
10:06 AM JT-Cave: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/21-axis/57078-simple-manual-centre-finder
10:45 AM rdtsc: really powerful to just add a python function to a button... can see all kinds of use-cases where this would be much easier than other GUIs
10:48 AM JT-Cave: yup
10:51 AM rdtsc: I expanded my functions to include a "quit linuxcnc", "reboot", and "power-down and shut-off" buttons - very handy for a touch-screen
10:53 AM JT-Shop: cool
10:54 AM JT-Shop: there is a quit button for Flex to shut down linuxcnc
10:54 AM JT-Shop: quit_pb
11:19 AM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> i need OFU01605-4
11:27 AM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> or
11:28 AM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> how i have to meassure diameter of ball screw?
11:44 AM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> or SFU1605_CN
11:44 AM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> same
11:48 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> lol - the couter weight which I thought was solid steel is lead.. I wonder how much money I have there...
11:49 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> I bet there is atleast a ton
11:49 AM lcnc-relay: <ccatlett1984@> lol
11:51 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> https://photos.app.goo.gl/6tZ2a7xgn1cRoXdSA
11:51 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> I have to tip it over and see how to get it out of there.
11:52 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> that is about as much as i can cut appart - the plasma will only do 1.5 inches and I don't want to get the torch out
12:10 PM roycroft: the emigrant fire is now 21,000 acres and still growing, and is still 0% contained
12:11 PM roycroft: it has moved through the burn scar of a 2009 fire, and is now moving towards a hydroelectric power generating facility with three large hydro plants
12:12 PM roycroft: the helicopters started flying over my house again at 8am this morning, and are doing flyovers every 15 minutes or so
12:12 PM roycroft: the prognosis is for zero progress today and tomorrow, and that the fire will likely burn until winter
12:31 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
01:52 PM acer is now known as _unreal_
01:52 PM _unreal_: my god 5min in the attic
01:52 PM _unreal_: and I'm soaked
01:52 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> lol - yep
01:52 PM _unreal_: cant wait till I get the attic exhaust fan setup and installed
01:53 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> I was up in the polebuilding trusses saturday... I was soaked
01:53 PM _unreal_: I've got a bunch of these really nice 24v marhine grade blowers
01:53 PM _unreal_: south florida
01:53 PM _unreal_: its about 130f
01:54 PM _unreal_: I also think I have settled on where I'm going to have my network switch finally
01:54 PM _unreal_: closet middle of the house
01:54 PM _unreal_: ECS2020-28P
01:55 PM _unreal_: I'll make my own wiring plate though
01:55 PM _unreal_: just CNC some starboard/ply or what ever and some rubber boona
01:56 PM _unreal_: That switch will give me everything I need
01:57 PM _unreal_: its got 12 POE and 12 regular ports plus the 4 SFP ports
01:57 PM _unreal_: I cant see my self in the future needing any more then 6 of the POE's (famous last words I know)
02:00 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> I am using 7 poe ports here...
02:01 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> 2 outside access points - and 5 cameras
02:01 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> (not all on the same switch. 3 switches as they are spread out over 2 buildinga and a tower)
02:03 PM Tom_L: what? no wifi in the treehouse?
02:04 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> the tree house is within line of sight of the one of the outside access points..
02:04 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> within 100 ft or so
02:04 PM Tom_L: how's that project goin?
02:05 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> not back to it.. It is one of those - I need the steel to make the brackets - which is in the polebuilding - which is why I am cleaning out the polebuilding (and side quest - finish taking the forklift apart
02:14 PM JT-Cave: https://pasteboard.co/v1wC4MqsYoj5.png
02:18 PM _unreal_: back when I was married, and times where $ hard. My xwife and I were using internet from a neighbor who was about 600' away. They kept there router close to a window which was perfect for us. so they let us use there internet. wasnt great got like 2mbit using some old usb wireless B nic. HAY it worked
02:20 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> that is cool - for rounds - I use the outside square gcode..
02:20 PM _unreal_: I finally got my HP laserjet 4 plus working with my trendnet network print server working
02:20 PM _unreal_: was my dads from the mid 90's he was using it in puerto rico
02:20 PM _unreal_: I cant believe it still works
02:21 PM _unreal_: and I found a source for a toner for it
02:21 PM _unreal_: My plan is to use it for invoices
02:21 PM _unreal_: when I open my company again. got to get all the machines going first though :/
02:21 PM _unreal_: sigh
02:44 PM rene-dev5 is now known as rene-dev
04:57 PM Unterhausen: so it is shrinkflation. I hope they get rich from that extra .02" of material they aren't supplying.
04:58 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> that is clearence...
04:58 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> clarence
04:58 PM JT-Shop: it's like ice cream
04:58 PM JT-Shop: you used to get a gallon...
04:59 PM JT-Shop: little known fact ice cream is frozen in the container upside down
04:59 PM JT-Shop: so when you open it it seems full
04:59 PM * JT-Shop built a packing machine for an ice cream plant
05:09 PM Unterhausen: maybe that's why the local dairy started using the same kind of containers as you get in the grocery
05:11 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
05:11 PM Tom_dev: http://paste.debian.net/1394406/
05:12 PM Tom_dev: anything unusual there?
05:12 PM Tom_dev: on the D525 it stops mid probe move
05:13 PM JT-Shop: greek to me
05:13 PM Tom_dev: no other errors
05:13 PM Tom_dev: started pouring rain soon as i went to the shop
05:14 PM Tom_dev: i'll try it on the test pc and see if it's the same. D12 is pretty sluggish on this MB
05:16 PM Tom_dev: i can run my torture test program and it runs just fine though
05:16 PM Tom_dev: can't figure this out
05:20 PM Tom_dev: plotter stops partway thru too then catches up with the motion path
05:21 PM JT-Shop: weird
05:25 PM Tom_dev: tried it the other day with the same thing but i was thinking it was just too hot out there
05:25 PM Tom_dev: seems not
05:26 PM Tom_dev: Linux bookworm 5.4.279-rtai-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Jul 9 19:17:37 UTC 2024 x86_64 GNU/Linux
05:26 PM Tom_dev: that's the one that's supposed to work
05:27 PM Tom_dev: i'll post a clip when i go in
05:29 PM JT-Shop: ok
05:30 PM Tom_L: i thought i would...
05:30 PM Tom_L: didn't capture it
05:30 PM Tom_L: not going back out in the rain
05:42 PM Tom_L: it let up for a bit: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/probe_issue.mp4
05:42 PM Tom_L: watch the plot
05:43 PM Tom_L: the coordinates stop too
05:44 PM Tom_L: but that stops before the probe errors
05:50 PM JT-Shop: the beeping is the probe?
05:50 PM JT-Shop: so motion does not stop just the gui?
05:51 PM JT-Shop: 15 8" x 8' x 5/4 white oak boards are very heavy to move even after drying for 4 years in the shop
06:03 PM _unreal_: central machine #33684 I have this lathe. IN you guys opinion. would you drive it with steppers, brushed servos or BLDC encoded servos? I have everything
06:03 PM JT-Shop: now to find a new home for the 6x6's
06:05 PM _unreal_: https://www.harborfreight.com/7-inch-x-12-inch-precision-mini-lathe-93799.html
06:05 PM _unreal_: the original owner changed the base frame to the 12"
06:05 PM _unreal_: regardless I'm looking to convert it to cnc. I'm just toying with choices
06:17 PM JT-Shop: false advertising saying precision for horrible freight
06:19 PM _unreal_: ?
06:19 PM Tom_L: the beeping is the steppers moving
06:19 PM JT-Shop: ah
06:20 PM Tom_L: the display stops then catches up after bit
06:20 PM _unreal_: ahhh?
06:20 PM Tom_L: but the probe stops after that and before it's done with no errors
06:22 PM * JT-Shop calls it a day
06:22 PM Tom_L: maybe i should swap out the 7i90 for a 7i80 and just use a rpi5
06:22 PM Tom_L: the D525 is getting pretty dated to run a current os
06:25 PM _unreal_: d525?
06:25 PM _unreal_: intel atom board?
06:25 PM Tom_L: yes
06:26 PM _unreal_: lol I'm using a netbook single core atom. to run my small cnc machine
06:26 PM _unreal_: 2gb ram and win10 because thats what the software requires
06:26 PM _unreal_: WORKS
06:27 PM _unreal_: once its booted it works fine
06:27 PM _unreal_: ONCE
06:27 PM Tom_L: the atom works fine using it's original setup but i do alot of testing of various things
06:28 PM Tom_L: this is one such test
06:46 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> I think I still have a 2 thread atom board around here...
07:03 PM pcw--at-home: Finally got everything ported to Mint22.1, was not too bad
07:04 PM pcw--at-home: Also Linux 6.17 Preempt-RT is quite good on this somewhat iffy RT hardware
07:06 PM pcw--at-home: saving my user directory and reinstalling it in on the new OS worked well (all FPGA tools moved without incident)
07:06 PM Tom_L: that helps
07:07 PM pcw--at-home: I dreaded re-installing all that stuff...
07:07 PM Tom_L: i couldn't get ise webpack to install on 12
07:07 PM Tom_L: luckily i had it on a windoz pc still
07:07 PM _unreal_: got to love linux. so I'm ripping a HD image with DD from a HD that is F'ed up?
07:08 PM _unreal_: its suposed to be fat32 or ntfs. its been so long that I dont even remember any more :(
07:08 PM _unreal_: regardless I'm ripping an image of the drive for safe keeping.
07:08 PM pcw--at-home: I just copied it from Mint 20.2 to then new Mint 22.1 dist and it just worked
07:08 PM _unreal_: the drive is showing as having a FAT16 partition table. its only got a 40gig or so HD
07:08 PM _unreal_: p4 laptop
07:09 PM _unreal_: the laptop is failed more or less. just figures its an other one of those things that my late father really screwed me up on and created an environment that locked me out of doing a lot of things I needed/wanted to do
07:09 PM _unreal_: sigh
07:09 PM _unreal_: better late then never I guess
07:10 PM pcw--at-home: On remaining minor LinuxCNC bug is that image-to-gcode does not work, not sure why yet
07:11 PM Tom_L: does mint use debs?
07:11 PM pcw--at-home: But I was forced to upgrade as LinuxCNC master would no longer compile on Mint 20.2
07:11 PM pcw--at-home: No not normally
07:12 PM _unreal_: is there a pre-build for orange py 5 LCNC?
07:12 PM pcw--at-home: Yes
07:13 PM _unreal_: pcw--at-home, I WILL be converting both my lathe and endmill to lcnc. and because they will be side by side it makes sence to make them sister setups only having config differences and UI tweeked to there specific tasks
07:14 PM _unreal_: ve7it, when I start to do conversions for my endmill and lathe. I plan to re-visit and make WORK the servo project of yours
07:15 PM _unreal_: I may as well considering how much time/money I put into it
07:15 PM ve7it: good work and congrats on getting settled in the new house
07:16 PM _unreal_: pcw--at-home, your opinion. for a LATHE, would you use DC servo, brushless servo (bldc with encoder), or stepper. I have everything
07:16 PM _unreal_: thankyou thankyou
07:16 PM pcw--at-home: For X/Z or spindle?
07:18 PM _unreal_: xz
07:18 PM _unreal_: FOR NOW xz
07:19 PM _unreal_: I'm leaning BLDC
07:19 PM pcw--at-home: Do you have drives (with some common interface) for all three types?
07:20 PM _unreal_: the endmill I'm going to go with the ve7it brushed system if I can get it working
07:20 PM _unreal_: pcw--at-home, I have everything in triplicate
07:20 PM _unreal_: thats part of my problem
07:20 PM _unreal_: too much
07:21 PM _unreal_: boxes of bldc's, boxes of steppers, not much on brushed servos
07:21 PM _unreal_: enough for a machine
07:22 PM pcw--at-home: I guess then it'd really just a matter of choosing drives that best match the torque/speed requirements of your mechanics
07:22 PM pcw--at-home: it's
07:23 PM _unreal_: pcw--at-home, correct me if I'm wrong but for a lathe, high speed with power would benifit a lathe the most
07:23 PM Tom_L: most lathe spindle speeds aren't super high
07:23 PM _unreal_: I'm talking X/Y
07:23 PM pcw--at-home: Also steppers are more likely to work direct-drive to the ballscrews
07:24 PM pcw--at-home: so simpler mechanically
07:24 PM _unreal_: I'm not worried about adding a little bit of complication
07:24 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> that is why the servo conversion for the little emco lathe worked so well... It had a 2.5:1 gear reduciton...
07:24 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> already
07:25 PM _unreal_: I'm leaning BLDC for the lathe
07:25 PM pcw--at-home: Servos are likely to have better high speed performance (even with reduction)
07:25 PM _unreal_: 6:1 ratio
07:25 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> just to prove it was lead.. lol
07:25 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> https://photos.app.goo.gl/whE1roLEXbZWzmhFA
07:26 PM _unreal_: the one's I am thinking of using are?? 100oz/in I believe, though I have a lot of 30oz/in one's as well. they are all capable of 2500 RPM
07:27 PM _unreal_: skunk its amazing how much your "" ;) LEAD "" was rusty
07:27 PM Tom_L: a cast plate behind it
07:28 PM roycroft: i've been thinking about building my own double-hung windows for the house
07:29 PM roycroft: using modern double pane insulated glass, of course
07:29 PM roycroft: i was wanting to build them the old fashioned way, with window weights for counterbalance, but they seem to be impossible to find any more
07:29 PM roycroft: because they were mostly made of lead, and it's all been melted down now
07:30 PM Tom_L: skunk could hook you up with some lead
07:30 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> Really? I remember them being cast iron
07:30 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> lol
07:30 PM roycroft: there were some cast iron ones, but they were much less common
07:30 PM Tom_L: they were
07:30 PM Tom_L: the ones in my house were
07:30 PM roycroft: around here at least
07:31 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> somone on a machining site wanted to used them for some small engine machining.. Everyone told him that the cast was really bad and would probably machine really poorly
07:31 PM roycroft: my house currently has vinyl sliding windows
07:31 PM roycroft: while the are effective and fairly energy efficient, they are hideous
07:31 PM roycroft: and they are very wide
07:32 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> agreed.. but they were probably the cheapest..
07:32 PM roycroft: i'd rather go for narrower windows that have a little style
07:32 PM roycroft: trying to convert an '80s house into a bungalow is rather ambitious, i know
07:33 PM roycroft: but i'm enjoying it so far
07:33 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> dad made the windows for the house I was in until I was 3...
07:33 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> we went to the open house - and the windows were still there..
07:33 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> probably 30 years later
07:33 PM roycroft: good windows will last a long time
07:33 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> the owner asked how to remove the windows - dad went over - lifted up on the frame and it came right out
07:35 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> he also lost the last 1/8 inch of his index finger at that house.. Table saw kick back. he was very lucky
07:40 PM roycroft: so i got the portable garage finished this morning, moved the other one in place, and spent the rest of the day cleaning up and organizing stuff in the shop and portable garage
07:40 PM roycroft: the shop has a lot of work ahead tidying up, but things are much better now
07:41 PM roycroft: i did not get my first lumber order prepared today, as i had planned, but i may be able to do that tonight
07:41 PM roycroft: i'd like to order the timber frame beams tomorrow
08:37 PM _unreal_: hitting this HD with TESTDISK. its popping up with lots of issues but no bad sectors. its only 12gb but I know its got a lot of stuff on it :/
08:37 PM _unreal_: old stuff I prob would like to have
08:37 PM _unreal_: and likely baby photos of my daughter :S
08:42 PM roycroft: if it's an ssd it will auto-remap bad sectors
08:43 PM xxcoder: would need to check smart to see status of remaps etc
08:58 PM _unreal_: Warning: number of heads/cylinder mismatches 64 (FAT) != 255 (HD) Warning: number of sectors per track mismatches 32 (FAT) != 63 (HD) FAT32 LBA 0 0 33 1467 48 53 23570400
09:55 PM ffywolfluf: working 11 hours on labor day, for half minimum wage, yay!
09:58 PM * roycroft put in a good day of work today, but for himself
10:08 PM uffywolflf: https://lostcoastoutpost.com/chpwatch/2025/sep/1/250901HM0076/ I stopped at this... the equipment was a truck pulling a trailer with a forklift on it. and it was blocking the roadway because he didn't do a good job strapping it down. lol
10:09 PM uffywolflf: strap came loose, forklift went forwards, rode the traler tongue into the back of his truck, forks ripped everything off his back axle, then the forklift slid off the side, the mast dug into the pavement, and that's what stopped him, because the forks took out both hydraulic circuits and the e-brake cables.
10:10 PM uffywolflf: how a $9.99 ratchet strap can do about $3000 damage to your pickup in one easy step.
10:11 PM uffywolflf: the forks didn't just pop the brake hoses... they yanked the steel lines hard enough to break the ABS module under the hood.
10:12 PM uffywolflf: I didn't pop his hood to see what exactly broke, but it dumped the brake reservoir onto the top of the driver's side front tire, and he lost both hydraulic circuits, so my guess is it yanked the abs module off its mounts or something...
10:13 PM uffywolflf: just a reminder that you should check your straps. slapping them and saying "that ain't goin' nowhere" is mandatory.
10:16 PM uffywolflf: https://imgur.com/a/Kck43gi
10:59 PM _unreal_: Sooooooo? the fan on THIS computer I'm using which is an HP all in one. just went full blast power for the first time EVER SINCE I've owned this computer. AND YES there is no dust in the heat sink
10:59 PM _unreal_: its dumbfounding me
11:01 PM luffywolff: some process stuck using 100% cpu?