#linuxcnc Logs

Aug 23 2025

01:06 AM Deejay: moin
04:47 AM Tom_L: morning
05:24 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
08:08 AM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> el morningo
08:21 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
09:05 AM lcnc-relay: <off7788@> #1 = 1
09:05 AM lcnc-relay: o100 if [#1 GT 0]
09:05 AM lcnc-relay: (debug, A)
09:05 AM lcnc-relay: (abort, B)
09:05 AM lcnc-relay: ... long message truncated: https://jauriarts.org/_heisenbridge/media/jauriarts.org/YzGagviQYhMPGhYkGPeimlrw/uhs3dZ3Amkk (6 lines)
09:06 AM lcnc-relay: <off7788@> why debug didn't run😫
09:06 AM Tom_L: did you call it?
09:07 AM lcnc-relay: <off7788@> now just abort runs
09:08 AM Tom_L: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/stable/html/gcode/o-code.html
09:08 AM Tom_L: give the sub a name
09:09 AM Tom_L: o100 sub
09:09 AM Tom_L: o100 endsub
09:09 AM Tom_L: then your if becomes o110 etc
09:10 AM Tom_L: then run o100
09:11 AM Tom_L: https://github.com/tlight9/flexgui/tree/master/examples/touch-probe3/subroutines
09:11 AM Tom_L: working examples
09:13 AM Tom_L: https://github.com/tlight9/flexgui/blob/master/examples/touch-probe3/subroutines/hole_mill.ngc
09:13 AM Tom_L: example using 'if'
09:15 AM lcnc-relay: <off7788@> it's just a test ngc.
09:15 AM lcnc-relay: i am working on my macros of tool changing.
09:15 AM lcnc-relay: i copy and modify example macros in probe basic atc. the example code is M65 p0 then (abort, xxx)
09:16 AM lcnc-relay: <off7788@> the situation now is just abort runs
09:24 AM lcnc-relay: <off7788@> the debug runs normally if i comment the abort line
09:30 AM Tom_L: put it in an else
09:30 AM Tom_L: it's going to run that the way it is
09:30 AM Tom_L: then if #1 =0 abort
09:37 AM Tom_L: iff7788, see what this does http://paste.debian.net/1393018/
09:37 AM lcnc-relay: <off7788@> Tom_L: ok
09:38 AM Tom_L: change the value of #1 to 0 to abort
09:42 AM lcnc-relay: <off7788@> same result. it seems like the ngc executer ignore every codes above once
09:42 AM lcnc-relay: find a abort
09:43 AM lcnc-relay: <off7788@> what i need is doing something before the abort line
09:46 AM Tom_L: dunno without diving deeper into it
09:48 AM Tom_L: try using M30 instead of abort
09:48 AM Tom_L: o100 if [#5400 EQ 0]
09:48 AM Tom_L: (debug,Tool must be non zero)
09:48 AM Tom_L: M30
09:48 AM Tom_L: o100 endif
09:49 AM Tom_L: it will return to the caller
09:49 AM Tom_L: iirc
09:49 AM Tom_L: it's been a while...
09:51 AM lcnc-relay: <off7788@> thanks you Tom, M30 is ok
09:56 AM lcnc-relay: <off7788@> but the abort's problem is still there.
09:56 AM lcnc-relay: ProbeBasic's codes must have been validated.
09:58 AM lcnc-relay: <off7788@> so there must be something wrong, or something i don't know enough about
10:04 AM Tom_L: i'm not sure i ever use abort
10:31 AM Unterhaus_ is now known as Unterhausen
11:08 AM Tom_L: off7788, you could also use 'return' instead of 'abort'
11:10 AM Tom_L: http://paste.debian.net/1393027/
11:10 AM Tom_L: from the doc examples
11:41 AM lcnc-relay: <off7788@> Tom_L: i know that return works before i asked.
11:41 AM lcnc-relay: I'm just confused why it's not working as i envision
11:55 AM Tom_L: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/40-subroutines-and-ngcgui/43950-bug-while-calling-subroutine-with-abort
12:00 PM * roycroft found another rabbit hole to jump down this morning
12:01 PM Tom_L: did you jump?
12:01 PM roycroft: i have three devices powered by 5vdc in my controller
12:01 PM roycroft: not yet, but after my cappuccino is finished
12:01 PM roycroft: all three devices are directly wired to the psu, which only has one set of power lugs
12:02 PM roycroft: i just figured out how to squeeze another power distrubtion block in the cabinet, so everyone has their own power lugs
12:02 PM roycroft: not only will this make it tidier, it will be more reliable
12:02 PM roycroft: but it will require a couple hours of work
12:02 PM Tom_L: so that's 2.5hrs rework this week
12:03 PM Tom_L: 3.5?
12:03 PM roycroft: time invested in making it reliable up front will save downtime later on
12:03 PM roycroft: at least
12:03 PM roycroft: but that's ok
12:03 PM roycroft: as long as it's all forward progress
12:03 PM roycroft: it's already getting hot, and soon it will be way too hot to do anything outdoors
12:04 PM Tom_L: i suppose sometimes you gotta use reverse to learn
12:04 PM roycroft: so i might as well work on the controller
12:04 PM Tom_L: been out and decided not to work outside today
12:04 PM roycroft: i've built control cabinets before, but this is my first cnc control cabinet
12:05 PM roycroft: i anticipated some real-time design evolution as i progressed with the build
12:05 PM Tom_L: shouldn't be much different
12:11 PM lcnc-relay: <off7788@> Tom_L: task checking doesn't solve the problem
12:14 PM lcnc-relay: <off7788@> still ignore previous codes
12:47 PM xxcoder: https://youtu.be/KRtyMCeDw8o subway for cats. crazy
12:54 PM xxcoder: yorkshire have turned into car yt apparently lol
12:57 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
01:21 PM xxcoder: interesting. he used some wax sprayer can which I never saw in any car restore channels
01:23 PM xxcoder: its for protecting inside spaces where it cant be painted
01:24 PM xxcoder: well effectively cant anyway
02:01 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
02:26 PM lcnc-relay: <techtematy@> .
02:26 PM lcnc-relay: <techtematy@> xxcoder: why are u an app
02:26 PM lcnc-relay: <techtematy@> ??
02:26 PM xxcoder: hi. this is from bridge to matrix and irc
02:27 PM xxcoder: I'm on both irc and discord
02:27 PM lcnc-relay: <xxcoder@> hi from discord
02:28 PM lcnc-relay: <techtematy@> xxcoder: oh ok never seen anything like that i assumed it was from a forum
02:28 PM lcnc-relay: <techtematy@> * the
02:28 PM xxcoder: no problem :)
03:19 PM JT-Shop: if anyone want's to test out keyboard jogging in Flex GUI it's https://github.com/jethornton/flexgui2
03:21 PM xxcoder: thats cool
03:22 PM JT-Shop: we have been testing it and would like more testing
03:36 PM JT-Shop: maybe spud would like to test it
03:44 PM Tom_L: did you build a deb there?
03:44 PM JT-Shop: no
03:45 PM Tom_L: i didn't fork it but can post a couple if you want
03:46 PM JT-Shop: that would be a good idea
03:48 PM Tom_L: i posted the link in flexdev
03:49 PM Tom_L: if you wanna copy/move them
03:49 PM JT-Shop: ok
03:49 PM Tom_L: i can't push them since i didn't make a repo
04:01 PM xxcoder: hmm isnt blondihack video usually come up on sat?
04:03 PM fluffywolf: sometimes sunday, sometimes skips a week...
04:04 PM xxcoder: hmm watched that yt channel for quite a long while, skips is very rare
04:04 PM fluffywolf: https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxyGb8HRLGsRJb-4qeN9pgI8nLruCvH7zL
04:04 PM xxcoder: wow interesting
04:05 PM xxcoder: well its nice pic of cat lol
04:08 PM fluffywolf: https://www.youtube.com/@Blondihacks/posts from her no-video-this-week posts, looks like she skips a week every few months on average.
04:09 PM xxcoder: yeah
04:13 PM fluffywolf: instead, you could watch... *tries to think of good channels that have posted recently*... xyla foxlin, watch wes work, rctestflight, carlsagan42, chessvibes, the fabrication series, torque test channel, mentour pilot, plainly difficult, adrian's digital basement, usagi electric,...
04:15 PM xxcoder: nah I dont watch that many channels
04:15 PM xxcoder: I usually watch 1-8 videos a day
04:16 PM fluffywolf: south main auto, hydraulic press channel, project farm, big clive, the proper people, joe's classic video games... *keeps scrolling down*
04:29 PM lfluffywof is now known as fluffywolf
06:48 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> ty JT-Shop !!
06:49 PM Tom_L: you try it?
06:49 PM Tom_L: i put the checkbox in the example touch-probe3
06:56 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> i will, tomorrow!
06:56 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> got no time today
07:29 PM roycroft: so the good news is that it is a lot cooler here than forecast, although it got up to 40 in town
07:29 PM roycroft: the bad news is that it's cooler here because the smoke rolled in last night
07:29 PM xxcoder: here its just few degrees f cooler than predicted
07:29 PM roycroft: warmer than forecast in eugene, but much cooler than forecast here
07:30 PM roycroft: diamond peak was diamond haze today
07:31 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> It is actually cool here tonight
07:31 PM roycroft: it probably won't cool off too much tonight
07:32 PM roycroft: that's the other drawback of the smoke, other than the smoke itself
07:32 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> 67f..
07:32 PM roycroft: it blocks the sun during the day, but it traps the heat at night
07:32 PM xxcoder: yeah its getting little bit cloudy here. not smoke but similiar effect
07:34 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> starship flight 10 might happen tomorrow. See if they get farther this time,
07:34 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> they are stacking right now
07:35 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6zZdKMkXcE
07:41 PM * roycroft years for the days when nasa built the spacecraft and they did not blow up
07:42 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> like the shuttle?
07:42 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> (sorry.. that was mean)
07:42 PM roycroft: i don't recall any shuttles blowing up
07:43 PM roycroft: a reentry crash is just as catastrophic, but it's different to blowing up
07:43 PM xxcoder: columbia?
07:43 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> ? teacher in space?
07:43 PM roycroft: an apollo ship blew up
07:43 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> We watched it in school - it was quite traumatizing...
07:43 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> right columbia
07:44 PM roycroft: oh, yeah, the challenger blew up
07:44 PM roycroft: sorry
07:44 PM roycroft: columbia was the reentry failure
07:44 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> challenger.. that was it
07:44 PM xxcoder: ahh yes
07:44 PM xxcoder: its hard to dust off memories that old
07:44 PM roycroft: at any rate, nasa's track record was not perfect
07:44 PM roycroft: but it's a lot better than spacex
07:44 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> we were all in the common area watching the 'first teacher in space'
07:44 PM roycroft: where blowing up is a feature, and it seems, a goal
07:45 PM xxcoder: spacex budgets is all cut into tringles
07:45 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> lets just say - the teachers didn't know what to do..
07:45 PM roycroft: i was at college in the financial aid office when challenger blew up
07:45 PM xxcoder: I dont remember what I was doing then. its nearly 40 years ago
07:46 PM roycroft: trying to get a pell grant situation sorted
07:46 PM xxcoder: I remember watching it on tv but I dont remember any context besides that
07:46 PM * roycroft remembers, now that he was reminded of it
07:47 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> the engineers said - 'don't launch!'
07:48 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> I was in 6th grade.. I think
07:48 PM roycroft: so today's score
07:48 PM roycroft: i got 60 ft^2 of ceramic floor tile for $50
07:48 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> nice!
07:48 PM roycroft: it's almost identical to the stuff i was looking at in the tile store that costs $13.59/ft^2
07:48 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> I have to go through the tile that dad has in the basment..
07:48 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> pallets full
07:48 PM roycroft: i need 20 ft^2, but i had to take it all
07:49 PM roycroft: i'll sell the remainder when i'm done
07:49 PM xxcoder: still cheaper
07:49 PM roycroft: this is for the front entry to my house
07:49 PM roycroft: yes
07:49 PM xxcoder: even if you dont sell
07:49 PM roycroft: i realized after buying the hardwood flooring that i really needed to redo the front entry before installing the flooring
07:50 PM roycroft: the current entry is 1980s vinyl flooring, the same as in the kitchen and laundry rooms
07:50 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> yeck
07:50 PM roycroft: i am trying to expunge the '80s from my house
07:50 PM roycroft: this is probably why i forgot about the challenger disaster at first
07:50 PM roycroft: that happened in the '80s
07:51 PM xxcoder: in least thats better than one where inside of house was time frozen from 1970s
07:51 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> the other house in trempealeau had carpeting on all the oak flooring...
07:51 PM xxcoder: I mean, everything was 70s.
07:51 PM roycroft: i'm pretty much trying to expunge the '80s from my life completely :)
07:51 PM xxcoder: untouched and fairly new. seems house was just left alone and unused for decades
07:51 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> the only carpeting left in that house is what is on the stairs.. (and is still pretty nice)
07:51 PM roycroft: this house had carpeting througout the house, including the bathrooms, except for the front entryway, kitchen, and laundry rooms
07:51 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> (I kinda liked the 80's)
07:51 PM roycroft: thick orange pile carpet
07:52 PM roycroft: not shag - that was '70s
07:52 PM roycroft: but thick pile
07:52 PM roycroft: it's ugly as sin
07:52 PM roycroft: and it smelled strongly of pot when i moved in
07:52 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> lol
07:52 PM roycroft: after a half dozen shampooings, the pot smell is almost gone
07:52 PM roycroft: but when i rip it up and replace it with real flooring the smell will be totally gone
07:53 PM roycroft: so far, the only room that has had the carpeting removed is my studio, which used to be the master bedroom
07:53 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> better than cat urine.. (I think)
07:53 PM roycroft: yes
07:53 PM roycroft: or dog pee
07:53 PM roycroft: my last house was built in the '70s, and the master bedroom had thick brown shag carpeting which smelled like dog pee
07:54 PM roycroft: i ripped that up immediately and replaced it with pergo maple grain vinyl flooring
07:54 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> the ex is moving back into her cabin that she let a 18ish year old live in.. with a couple of unfixed cats that sprayed all over the place.. ubh
07:54 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> ubh
07:54 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> ugh
07:54 PM roycroft: intending to replace it with real wood flooring eventually, but i never got around to it
07:54 PM xxcoder: nothing as perment as temp fix
07:54 PM roycroft: the new house will be 100% hardwood flooring and ceramic tile flooring
07:54 PM roycroft: and i'm determined to do that
07:55 PM roycroft: even the spare bathroom, which is essentially the cats' bathroom as i don't use it and their cat box is there, i want to redo with tile flooring
07:55 PM roycroft: when i bought the place the carpeting had been ripped up, the floor primed with kilz, and a piece of vinyl flooring was rolled up for me to install
07:57 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> https://photos.app.goo.gl/fcQ26QPhXH77Q8iL9
07:57 PM roycroft: i've gone back and forth on that, and while i don't use that bathroom and the vinyl flooring is already there, if i redo all the other floors in the house with ceramic tile or hardwood strips, i don't think i want to install the vinyl there - it's small, and would only cost me a couple hundred dollars to do in proper ceramic tile
07:57 PM roycroft: nice
07:57 PM roycroft: if you have no use for that you can send it to me :)
07:58 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> dads plan was to tounge and groove that for thier bedroom
07:58 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> cherry
07:58 PM xxcoder: thats quite a l;ot of what looks like good wood
07:58 PM roycroft: yeah, it looks like cherry
07:58 PM roycroft: cherry that has been sitting around for a while
07:59 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> a long time
07:59 PM roycroft: when you machine that wood it will turn reddish again
07:59 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> I could not tell you when it was milled..
07:59 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> probably when I was in my 20's
07:59 PM roycroft: as brown as it is, at least 3-5 years
07:59 PM roycroft: and given your situation, probably 10x as long as that
07:59 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> lol - probably
08:00 PM roycroft: it will start turning brown in a few days, but it takes a few years to get that dark
08:00 PM roycroft: cherry is beautiful, and in light traffic areas makes for great flooring
08:00 PM roycroft: a bedroom would be perfect
08:01 PM roycroft: it's kind of soft, though, as far as hardwoods go, so i would not put it in a high traffic area
08:01 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> right
08:01 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> dad made mom a spinning wheel out of cherry
08:01 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> it is beautiful
08:01 PM roycroft: the shakers used cherry a lot
08:02 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> although - he also made her a bench out of cotton wood which has a ribbon look to it.. That is beautiful too
08:03 PM roycroft: and cottonwood is considered garbage wood by most people
08:03 PM roycroft: it certainly can't be used for firewood if you actually want to generate any heat
08:03 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> lol - right. it is really soft
08:04 PM roycroft: but i've found that most "garbage" woods can be used for furniture if it's the right design
08:06 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> https://photos.app.goo.gl/JuKJf916dHvp5zsC6
08:06 PM roycroft: oh, that is nice
08:06 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> https://photos.app.goo.gl/6mpxL9w9R1EhE8hFA
08:06 PM roycroft: it has some really nice figure
08:07 PM roycroft: a loom bench, i take it?
08:07 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> yes
08:14 PM roycroft: matt cremona is struggling today
08:15 PM roycroft: he's cutting short logs, and being lazy and not securing them, and every log is moving on the mill as he takes slices
08:16 PM xxcoder: that bench looks so nice
08:17 PM roycroft: yes, for being made of garbage wood, it certainly does not look like garbage
08:17 PM xxcoder: certainly wears as its soft wood from what I understand, but probably will last quite a while anyway
08:17 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> right
08:17 PM roycroft: your father was a skilled and creative person, skunkworks8841
08:17 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> my dad loved watchin matt
08:17 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> yes - he was an amazing person
08:17 PM xxcoder: I wonder how rare looms is nowdays
08:17 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> he was well rounded.. broadcast engineer - machininst, wood worker, mechanic..
08:17 PM roycroft: less rare than you would think
08:18 PM roycroft: i even have one :)
08:18 PM xxcoder: cool :)
08:18 PM roycroft: and there's a textile store in eugene that has dozens of them
08:18 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> mom probably has a dozen...
08:18 PM roycroft: they sell quite a few, both new and used ones
08:19 PM roycroft: i'd say that the weaving community is probably not as large as the quilting community, but it's still pretty big
08:20 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> she is down to making rugs.. but used to make a ton of stuff. blankets and such
08:20 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> there is a weaving group around here
08:20 PM roycroft: there are several in oregon, and there are shows/contests all around the state
08:21 PM roycroft: i should say competitions, not contests
08:22 PM roycroft: people don't weave out of necessity any more, but a lot of people weave because they love the art and craft of weaving
08:22 PM xxcoder: indeed
08:23 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> right.
08:23 PM roycroft: there are at least a half dozen textile artists who have booths at the country fair
08:23 PM xxcoder: its the sole reason some of crafts still exist
08:23 PM roycroft: in western society
08:23 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> mom also did stained glass, dying, stuff I don't remember
08:23 PM roycroft: in much of the third world, people still weave out of necessity
08:23 PM * roycroft has also done stained glass and fabric dying
08:24 PM roycroft: am i your mom!?
08:24 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> lol
08:24 PM xxcoder: that'd be shocking plot twist
08:25 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> mom has memory issues.. So I hope not
08:26 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> matt cremona
08:26 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> oops
08:26 PM roycroft: hmm, no blondihacks video today
08:26 PM roycroft: i wonder what's up with that?
08:26 PM xxcoder: yeah its a week off for some reason. theres that yt post
08:26 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> https://photos.app.goo.gl/orpUDjsFZ25mRr248
08:26 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> slacker
08:27 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> I was moving stuff and building things for the kids bedrooms at the ex.. I have not been able to watch my normal stuff
08:28 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> She might actually take the kids off and on.. I don't know how I feel about that yet.
08:30 PM roycroft: so i am going to widen my entryway closet a bit, and install a wider door, as it's tiny, and i have the room to enlarge it
08:30 PM roycroft: that requires a bit of framing and sheetrock work
08:31 PM roycroft: and i just realized that since the entryway floor extends into the closet, i need to do that before i install the flooring
08:31 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> I hate sheetrock work.. well - installing it is ok - mudding - not so much
08:31 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> always want to make it better when it is ok as is
08:31 PM roycroft: so this is now turning out to be a much bigger project than i anticipated
08:31 PM roycroft: the closet is too small, period
08:32 PM roycroft: and the door is only 18" wide, which looks really weird
08:32 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> building my house back in the day - closets are always after thoughts
08:32 PM roycroft: if i widen it by 6" i can install a 24" door, which will look normal, not weird
08:32 PM roycroft: but it's ok - it just means it will take a little longer
08:33 PM roycroft: and i just scored 19 boxes of hardwood flooring for a real steal
08:33 PM roycroft: but i need 6 more boxes to do the job
08:33 PM roycroft: if i have to do the closet and entryway floor first, that gives me more time to find 6 more boxes on fb marketplace or cl, and not have to pay retail
08:34 PM roycroft: i'm just already tired of having the materials piled up in my living room, and it's only been a week
08:34 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> lol
08:34 PM roycroft: and i kind of have to store the flooring in the living room, as that's where it's going to be installed
08:34 PM xxcoder: lol
08:34 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> that is how I grew up.. project always took a long time. raw materials in the living area
08:34 PM roycroft: storing it outdoors under a tarp is right out
08:35 PM roycroft: i'd have to acclimate it for months after i brought it in before i could install it
08:36 PM roycroft: floors are usually the last part of a remodel, but i'm doing them first, because i need this carpeting to go away, and because i'm coming across good deals for the materials
08:36 PM roycroft: but i really want to have all the floors redone within the next year
08:36 PM roycroft: except, perhaps, the kitchen
08:36 PM roycroft: it would be a lot better to build and install the new cabinets in the kitchen before installing the new flooring
08:37 PM roycroft: speaking of which, it's time to make dinner
08:37 PM roycroft: the master bath may wait too, as i want to replace the tub, and i need to do that before flooring
08:38 PM roycroft: nerdforge just sent me an email with a link to their "new" video
08:39 PM roycroft: which i watched a month ago
08:39 PM roycroft: i think they're a little late on the announcements
08:39 PM xxcoder: patreon?
08:39 PM roycroft: yes
08:39 PM xxcoder: fun lol
08:40 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> I watch her every once in a while
08:40 PM roycroft: i like martina
08:40 PM roycroft: i like her energy and her creativity
08:40 PM roycroft: and i like her techniques
08:40 PM roycroft: but i would not want any of the stuff shemakes
08:41 PM xxcoder: only one I would love is one of her books
08:41 PM xxcoder: but shes quite hard for me to watch so I didnt sub to her
08:41 PM roycroft: her books are average quality in execution, but very creative in design
08:41 PM roycroft: she is an artist who makes books, not a bookbinder
08:42 PM xxcoder: indeed. I still do like her book style lol
08:42 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> Her and Adam Savage mad a book recently.. huge book..
08:42 PM roycroft: i wish hansi would explain more about his electronics and coding work
08:43 PM roycroft: but he's not as cute as martina, so i understand why he's not featured as much
09:30 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> If you guys haven't watched curious marc... You should
09:34 PM lfluffywof: I find his videos a little slow, but I watch them sometimes. last one I watched he was fixing atomic clocks for his own attempt at measuring relativity.
09:55 PM lfluffywof is now known as fluffywolf
10:01 PM roycroft: relativity is simple, and needs no experimentation
10:02 PM roycroft: on thanksgiving, drunk uncle will be there, and you won't be able to get away from him, so bring lots of weed and sneak out to behind the garage occasionally
10:03 PM roycroft: it's a well-tested and proven forumula
10:05 PM roycroft: and he does not need to be measured
10:05 PM roycroft: whenever he gets to be too much, make another trip to behind the garage
10:05 PM fluffywolf: ... huh?
10:10 PM roycroft: you don't have a drunk uncle?
10:10 PM roycroft: i thought everyone had one
10:16 PM xxcoder: I had one. he died from heart attack. his heart couldnt get enough blood in his vessels
10:16 PM xxcoder: result of 2 day binger, drank 5 large volka bottles
10:16 PM xxcoder: or was it 7 bottles? yeah think it was 7
10:25 PM roycroft: that's a lot
10:26 PM xxcoder: yep. he was drinking to die. and he did.
10:27 PM xxcoder: unfortunately there was nobody where he lived to stop that
10:27 PM fluffywolf: I don't drink, and have no idea why drinking is a thing.
10:30 PM flyback: I try to drink but I can't handle more than 1 mike's hard a day
10:30 PM flyback: heh
10:30 PM xxcoder: I dont drink ever. he was one of reasons.
10:31 PM flyback: I could give a **** if I shorten my life at this point
10:31 PM * roycroft is an occasional/social drinker, but probably could not handle more than one mike's hard per lifetime
10:37 PM flyback: mom hates when I drink them
10:37 PM flyback: im 51, too bad
10:59 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> go to sleep guys
10:59 PM xxcoder: not for few more hours. its just 8 pm
11:01 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> 6am here
11:12 PM Tom_L: you should talk