#linuxcnc Logs
Jul 09 2025
#linuxcnc Calendar
10:11 AM roycroft: hi folks
10:32 AM roycroft: i'm not in the market for a new 3d printer at the moment, but it's good to know about the k2+
10:33 AM roycroft: yes, within a few thousandths
10:35 AM roycroft: kind of like m8 and 5/16"
10:35 AM roycroft: which are actually closer in size
10:35 AM roycroft: so close they're pretty much interchangeable
10:36 AM Rab: Fasteners will even engage for a few threads...don't ask me whether I have indulged in such wickedness.
10:37 AM Rab: But I have used 5/16" bolts for mounting 608 bearings with an 8mm bore.
10:37 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> yes - I use standoffs from computers - but the female holes need to be the smaller computer screws - like what hold in the cdrom (from olden days) not the bigger hd screws
10:37 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> the finer thread scres
10:37 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> screws
10:38 AM Rab: The HDD screws are some coarse thread abomination that's almost like 6-32, but not. I think the cdrom screws are M3.
10:38 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> I never looked them up
10:38 AM roycroft: m8 is 0.3150", 5/16" is 0.3125", so 0.0025" the difference
10:40 AM roycroft: a 4-40 screw's nominal dimater is 0.112", and m3 is 0.118", so a much bigger difference than above, but still pretty similar
10:41 AM lcnc-relay: <voiditswarranty@> yeah m8 and 5/16 has thrown me off a few times. goes in, then jams, wtf!! oh yeah, different pitch
10:42 AM roycroft: the thread pitch is pretty similar though - 40tpi is 0.025", and 0.7mm is 0.028"
10:42 AM lcnc-relay: <voiditswarranty@> I love some standoffs that have the m3 on one end to go into the motherboard mounting plane, and an imperial thread at the other end for the weird 6-24 hdd screw through the motherboard
10:43 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> hmm - I don't remember what tap I used for the standoffs I had. I almost think it was a 6-32.. wonder if that was wrong. (the female were the cdrom style screws)
10:44 AM roycroft: 18tpi is 0.055", and 1.5mm is 0.059, so that's also pretty similar
10:44 AM lcnc-relay: <voiditswarranty@> half the time these days I just drill the standoff right through and use a single longer bolt for my own pcb mounting projects
10:45 AM roycroft: that's one of my next tasks on the mini-router controller - to mount the spindle controller board
10:45 AM roycroft: and i haven't figured out how i'm going to do that yet
10:45 AM lcnc-relay: <voiditswarranty@> I could spend $0.02 on the right standoff, but instead I'll spend $150 in time drilling them out 😄
10:45 AM roycroft: it's just a small pcb with four mounting holes
10:45 AM roycroft: the issue is that i'm mounting on a plywood base, and i do not want to drill all the way through the plywood
10:46 AM lcnc-relay: <voiditswarranty@> I found some standoffs that were nylon. push and click into a hole in the enclosure, and take an m3 machine screw through the board. really nice. I should stock those.
10:46 AM roycroft: i'm going to mount it on standoffs, but the threads on the standoffs are too small for threaded inserts
10:46 AM roycroft: i might just print a mounting plate for it
10:47 AM lcnc-relay: <voiditswarranty@> drill right through but use a countersunk head from the outside and a nut on the board side?
10:47 AM roycroft: i don't want to do that
10:47 AM roycroft: i want to keep the bottom of the base clean
10:47 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> https://photos.app.goo.gl/uuNicQvmYJW5TKV57
10:48 AM roycroft: for no particular reason than i want to do it that way
10:48 AM lcnc-relay: <voiditswarranty@> could take a 1/4" piece of allthread, and drill and tap a hole down the middle and make a standoff adapter that screws into the threaded insert
10:48 AM Rab: roycroft, you've got a lathe, right? Just drill and tap a bolt for your standoffs, cut it into chunks and slot them to make your own inserts.
10:48 AM lcnc-relay: <voiditswarranty@> totally valid reason, that's half the reason I do anything
10:48 AM roycroft: no, i don't have a metal lathe any more
10:48 AM roycroft: but i think i can print a mounting plate
10:48 AM Rab: I've done it several times, although describing it makes it seem like an unreasonable amount of work.
10:48 AM roycroft: a couple holes in the middle for screwing it down to the base
10:48 AM lcnc-relay: <voiditswarranty@> you can take my lathe from my cold dead hands!
10:49 AM roycroft: and four standoffs for mounting the board
10:49 AM lcnc-relay: <voiditswarranty@> why not just a small wood screw right through the board into a spacer into the wood? or is the ply too thin?
10:49 AM Rab: Sounds good, then you can choose the best fasteners for the plywood.
10:49 AM roycroft: it's 12mm ply
10:50 AM lcnc-relay: <voiditswarranty@> should be plenty
10:50 AM roycroft: i'm mounting the other components onto it with 3/8" screws
10:50 AM roycroft: i could probably use wood screws and nylon spacers
10:50 AM lcnc-relay: <voiditswarranty@> my ELS board is held into it's enclosure with about 9 lbs of hot glue 😄
10:50 AM roycroft: #4 screws would work
10:51 AM roycroft: the thing is, i kind of want everything to be serviceable
10:51 AM roycroft: the power supplies and din rails are held down by #10 screws, and those can usually be removed and reinserted a few times in plywood
10:51 AM lcnc-relay: <voiditswarranty@> oooorrr, if there's any flat spots suitable on the board, double sided foam tape onto a sheet metal carrier, and screw the carrier down
10:52 AM lcnc-relay: <voiditswarranty@> I think I'm just describing the printed mount you said
10:52 AM roycroft: but small screws like #4 don't fare so well if you remove them and try to replace them in the same hole
10:52 AM lcnc-relay: <voiditswarranty@> print a din adapter for the board?
10:52 AM roycroft: i installed threaded inserts in the side of the cabinet for the fan
10:53 AM roycroft: but those are #8 screws, and the side is 5/8" thick
10:53 AM roycroft: big enough that that kind of mount works
10:53 AM lcnc-relay: <voiditswarranty@> can always glue a small piece of ply on to thicken a spot up
10:53 AM roycroft: i think i have some nylon spacers
10:54 AM lcnc-relay: <voiditswarranty@> I mean to add meat for a bigger screw
10:54 AM roycroft: wood screw through the pcb and a spacer directly into the plywood would work
10:54 AM roycroft: but there's still the problem of servicing it
10:55 AM roycroft: and with the power supplies, even if i remove and replace them several times such that the wood screws don't hold well any more, i can always drill out the holes and install threaded inserts
10:55 AM roycroft: but i don't know if i can even get threaded inserts for #4 screws
10:55 AM roycroft: although i could use brass standoffs with the hex outer profile, and epoxy them into the plywood
10:56 AM roycroft: i probably won't even need epoxy - if i drill a slightly undersize round hole and pound the standoff into the hole that would do the job
10:56 AM lcnc-relay: <voiditswarranty@> https://www.amazon.ca/Tapping-Threaded-Slotted-Stainless-Helical/dp/B07JG7DS7V ah, there's an m3 threaded insert
10:57 AM roycroft: that could work
10:57 AM roycroft: although i do not have those in stock
10:58 AM lcnc-relay: <voiditswarranty@> yeah screw the standoffs into an undersize hole and wick some thin super glue in there
10:58 AM roycroft: but if i use the nylon spacers and wood screws, if i ever have to service the board i could get the inserts for reinstallation
10:58 AM Rab: That one's fine thread, not for wood.
10:58 AM roycroft: actually, fine thread inserts are usually better for hardwood
10:58 AM Rab: OIC
10:58 AM roycroft: but for softwoods and manufactured wood products, you're correct - coarse thread is better
10:59 AM roycroft: and this is a manufactured wood product
10:59 AM roycroft: but i bet i can find some that would work at mcmaster
10:59 AM lcnc-relay: <voiditswarranty@> hence the glue as a backup
11:00 AM roycroft: there are none for softwoods in those small sizes
11:00 AM roycroft: not m3 and not 4-40
11:00 AM Rab: I have had it happen when the OD and ID threads were similar, that the inner screw bound and rotated the adapter until it bottomed out and cracked the wood. Although it is possible that operator error was to blame.
11:00 AM roycroft: but yes, fine thread with some thin ca glue would work
11:01 AM roycroft: i have done that before
11:03 AM roycroft: https://www.mcmaster.com/90016A005/
11:03 AM roycroft: that would work
11:03 AM roycroft: although i should check some standard brass standoffs
11:04 AM roycroft: if they are m3, i might want to get m3 inserts so that i can use standard standoffs
11:04 AM roycroft: https://www.mcmaster.com/95631A050/
11:04 AM roycroft: such as those
11:06 AM roycroft: and yes, standard standoffs are m3, so that's what i'll get
11:07 AM roycroft: since i'm not going to install until after fair, i might as well order the inserts now - they'll be here when i get back
11:07 AM roycroft: one and done is good
11:07 AM roycroft: no retrofitting later
11:08 AM roycroft: and they use the same insert tool as is used for 6-32 and 8-32, which i already have
11:09 AM roycroft: but shipping costs more than the product, so i need to make up a mcmaster order before i commit
11:18 AM Tom_L: use wood inserts to machine screw threads
11:19 AM Tom_L: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-5-16-in-18-tpi-Solid-Brass-Wood-Insert-Nut-818808/204806599
11:19 AM Tom_L: not that big of course
11:22 AM Tom_L: guess i'm late to the party...
11:28 AM roycroft: i have a bunch of 5/16" threaded inserts already - i use those quite often
11:29 AM roycroft: i know i have flanged zinc ones, for mdf and such, coarse thread brass for softwood, and fine thread brass for hardwood
11:35 AM roycroft: i'm vacillating on ordering the inserts, as i don't have time to take inventory and make a proper mcmaster order, but having inserts for standard standoffs would be nice for other projects as well
11:35 AM roycroft: so maybe i'll just order a bunch of them to help amortize the shipping cost
11:40 AM roycroft: one thing i like about mcmaster, which is different to almost every other vendor in the us, is that they don't go "ooh! he's ordering metric! we can mark this up an additional 400%!"
11:45 AM xxcoder: nice indeed. yeah its ricious on metric stuff prices sometimes
11:50 AM Rab: roycroft, I don't know if you use Amazon (I avoid it whenever possible), but they have similar M3 inserts: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0026GSYE0
11:52 AM roycroft: i use amazon when i need to
11:53 AM Rab: More expensive per-insert than McMaster's 25-pack, so if you want more than about 20 it's about a wash even with McMaster's shipping charge.
11:53 AM roycroft: i am low on 8-32 threaded inserts - i used some on this cabinet and noted that i was low on stock
11:53 AM roycroft: so i ordered some of those, along with a bunch of m3, and was satisfied with the shipping cost to product cost ratio
11:54 AM roycroft: xxcoder: the worst is my local big box store - jerry's
11:54 AM roycroft: typically something like this (made up numbers, but close to reality):
11:54 AM roycroft: #4-40x1" BHCS SS - $0.40 (still way more than mcmaster)
11:54 AM roycroft: m3-0.5x25 BHCS SS - $2.70
11:55 AM xxcoder: ricious indeed
11:55 AM Rab: Oops, I was looking at McMaster's 4-40 inserts. Anyway it's McM $5.58/10 plus shipping, Amazon $8.98+FS.
11:56 AM roycroft: the hardware store here in town not only does not charge a metric tax, their prices on american standard thread products is usually way less than jerry's or home depot or lowe's
11:56 AM roycroft: and they're close enough i can walk there
11:56 AM roycroft: i don't have prime
11:57 AM roycroft: so when i order from amazon i need to do a $35 minimum order, and it usually takes a week or longer to get stuff
11:57 AM roycroft: if i ordered today i would likely not have the stuff when i get back on monday
11:57 AM roycroft: my mcmaster order will be here friday
11:59 AM roycroft: and rab: the m3-0.5 inserts i ordered were $5.58/10, so mcmaster charges exactly the same for #4-40 and m3-0.5
11:59 AM roycroft: which is as it should be
12:02 PM xxcoder: uhoh. next tues and wed is 90 and 97f
12:07 PM roycroft: yeah, it's going to get hot this weekend
12:07 PM roycroft: 35 on sunday at the fair
12:07 PM roycroft: er, 35 on saturday, 36 on sunday
12:08 PM roycroft: it will be cooler at home, but i won't be at home
12:08 PM roycroft: my cats will, though, and i'll probably turn off the heat pump while i'm gone
12:08 PM xxcoder: id set heat pump to high temp, like 80f
12:08 PM roycroft: i may do that, if i decide not to turn it off completely
12:09 PM xxcoder: so it will keep in least to safer, if not confortable, temp for cats
12:13 PM roycroft: the house is fairly well insulated, so if i keep it closed up and the blinds/drapes drawn, it should not get too hot
12:13 PM roycroft: the night time lows will be in the mid teens, so things will cool off every day
12:14 PM roycroft: it's when we have a week of highs in the mid 30s and lows in the mid 20s that the house will really heat up
12:14 PM * roycroft heads off to the storage unit before it gets too hot
12:44 PM xxcoder: hmm I see few signs of water from skies. forgot what that mythic event is called
12:44 PM xxcoder: r sometime
12:44 PM xxcoder: something*
12:44 PM xxcoder: I mean, water from skies? in summer? sounds impossible
12:49 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> raycroft, pdf drawing isnt accurate....
01:24 PM Tom_L: le_potato measure the board itself then
01:24 PM Tom_L: zero the calipers on a hole and then you'll have centers numbers
01:36 PM roycroft: if you want a fairly accurate meaurement, insert some m3 socket head cap screws in two holes of the board, snug up some nuts on the back, and measure between the screwheads from outside to outside, then subtract the diameter of one screwhead
01:37 PM roycroft: that should be accurate enough to lay out mounting holes on your bracket
01:37 PM Tom_L: that's why you zero the calipers on a hole
01:37 PM Tom_L: given the holes are relatively the same size
01:38 PM roycroft: they should be within a thousandth or so
01:38 PM roycroft: and yes, zeroing the calipers on a hole would work too, if it's not hard to get a good angle on the holes
01:39 PM roycroft: there are many ways to do this
01:40 PM roycroft: when i mount my spindle controller i'll probably just hold it in place, locate the holes with a center punch, then drill them out and install the threaded inserts
01:41 PM roycroft: something similar could be done with a 3d printed bracket, if you print oversize pads that are located fairly accurately
01:42 PM roycroft: i found all my camping gear at the storage unit, and got out of there just when it was starting to get hot
01:42 PM roycroft: i dropped an led lantern and broke it, but that lantern has been flaky for years
01:42 PM roycroft: i saw that as an opportunity to replace it with a better one that works reliably
01:44 PM Tom_L: eons ago i made parts for the gas lanterns
01:44 PM roycroft: i still have my propane lanters
01:45 PM roycroft: lanterns
01:45 PM roycroft: i dislike them - they're way too bright for most uses
01:45 PM roycroft: and the heat and noise is bothersome
01:45 PM roycroft: i'm all about led lanterns now
01:45 PM Tom_L: they were quite popular back in the day
01:45 PM roycroft: ironically though, i collect aladdin kerosene lamps
01:45 PM roycroft: the ones with the mantles
01:46 PM Tom_L: yes
01:46 PM roycroft: i keep one in every major room - they are really useful in power outages
01:46 PM roycroft: but i only use them when the power is out
01:46 PM xxcoder: I love the one clickspring made
01:46 PM roycroft: when i was a kid we did not have propane lanterns
01:46 PM Tom_L: i fire up the generator
01:46 PM roycroft: the coleman lanterns of the day used white gas as the fuel
01:47 PM roycroft: and we had to pump the lantern up to deliver the fuel
01:47 PM xxcoder: I just use led flashlight. older model, not very bright. which means it can last days on
01:47 PM roycroft: propane lanterns became popular in the '80s
01:47 PM Tom_L: i know, i made most of the fittings on all the tanks
01:47 PM xxcoder: it have aaa batteries thats usb rechargable so it never need batteries
01:48 PM Tom_L: and some propane stuff
01:48 PM roycroft: flashlights are useful, and i bring some when camping
01:48 PM Tom_L: the regulators etc
01:48 PM roycroft: but having a lantern is also useful
01:48 PM roycroft: especially when sitting at the picnic table at night while reading, or when in the tent at night doing stuff like changing clothes
01:48 PM xxcoder: I lost even older led flashlight, it would last weeks on. I once left it on and forgot, and few days later come in and its still on
01:48 PM roycroft: anyway, i'll just have to leave a bit early tomorrow for fair
01:49 PM roycroft: i figured i would have to stop off at fred meyer's for some camping gear anyway
01:49 PM roycroft: now i add a new lantern to the list
01:50 PM roycroft: i used to buy gear every year before a camping trip
01:50 PM roycroft: but i've accumulated so much stuff over the years that i rarely have to buy anything any more
01:50 PM roycroft: i got a new cot 3-4 years ago, because my old one was losing its springs
01:50 PM roycroft: i think that's the last camping gear i've purchased
01:51 PM roycroft: that's one of the nice things about getting old - if you've taken care of your stuff over the years, you don't need new stuff very often
01:51 PM Tom_L: yup
01:51 PM roycroft: when you're young you don't have much stuff, so you have to keep buying more
01:54 PM roycroft: you know, that spindle controller is already mounted on some standoffs with male threads on the bottom
01:54 PM roycroft: i don't even need a center punch - i can just put it on the base and tap on it to mark the hole locations
01:54 PM roycroft: that would not work well with plastic, though
01:56 PM roycroft: although one could take some steel standoffs, turn the male threads to a point in the lathe, and use those to locate the holes
01:56 PM roycroft: any time measuring can be avoided life is better :)
03:05 PM JT-Mobile: Yo
05:59 PM memleak: hello :) long time no see.
06:04 PM pere: hi
06:17 PM xxcoder: dont look like mythical water falling down from skies thing will happen again. its sunny now
06:20 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> i already fitted it whatever 🙂
06:20 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> have to print more console
06:23 PM memleak: Juan Ponce de León would probably have been happy to see it.
06:29 PM memleak: that was a reference to him chasing after the fountain of youth.
06:29 PM memleak: mythical waters
06:30 PM roycroft: i can assure you that tacoma holds no fountain of youth
06:30 PM memleak: LOL
06:30 PM roycroft: it used to be called the armpit of the northwest
06:30 PM xxcoder: yep. high crime here still, though much better than in 90s
06:30 PM roycroft: but then weyerhauser finally put some scrubbers on their smokestacks
06:31 PM roycroft: i was once riding from bellingham to portland late at night
06:31 PM roycroft: a friend was driving, and i was sound asleep
06:31 PM xxcoder: I was joking about rain because in summers rain basically dont happen. night rain was bit of a surpise
06:31 PM roycroft: suddenly i woke up and exclaimed "we're in tacoma!"
06:31 PM roycroft: the smell woke me up
06:31 PM xxcoder: 🍃
06:31 PM roycroft: that was 40ish years ago
06:31 PM roycroft: it's not so bad now
06:33 PM roycroft: ponce de león never found the fountain of youth
06:33 PM roycroft: he did discover florida though, much to his regret
06:33 PM xxcoder: https://www.memedroid.com/memes/detail/1704023
06:38 PM xxcoder: sequel to that is much harder to find. basically it shows that guy suffering on ground. there's other 2 explorers, one asks othern "hey wheres name?" and other replies "he drank from fountain of foresight and left for home."
06:38 PM memleak: brb
06:39 PM roycroft: today is tidy the house day and get ready for fair day
06:39 PM roycroft: and i've been doing that
06:39 PM roycroft: but i also got power to the 4th wall in my shop, and i'm printing some hardware storage boxes - i have a lot of hardware to organize and store that i did not get done on the first round
06:40 PM roycroft: basically, when i built the new cabinets, i printed boxes for all the stuff that was in the wall-hanging plastic storage bins
06:40 PM roycroft: but i had boxes and boxes of unsorted/unorganized hardware
06:40 PM roycroft: i'm finally starting to deal with that stuff
06:49 PM * roycroft has unpacked three moving boxes so far today, and may get another one or two done by this evening
06:49 PM memleak: what's funny is that the song Fear Inoculum by Tool inspired me to read about Ponce De Leon.
06:50 PM memleak: i didn't understand the reference in the song :P
06:50 PM roycroft: i'm not a fan of tool
06:50 PM roycroft: i don't listen to metal music much at all
06:50 PM roycroft: not my thing
06:50 PM roycroft: i understand that they're very good at their craft, though
07:14 PM memleak: I think I'm the only tool fan who also likes Sum 41 and nickelback
07:15 PM memleak: there's a movie called Fountain of Youth btw with John Krasinski that looks like a fun watch with the family
07:16 PM memleak: judging from the trailer it kind of has a national treasure / uncharted vibe to it
08:11 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> roycroft i can confirm, the meassurements in the PDF is off!
08:11 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> how....
08:12 PM xxcoder: possibly board was altered and docs not updated
08:13 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> i dont like this
09:08 PM Tom_L: le_potato, likely the docs reflect the older board with the xilinx fpga
09:08 PM Tom_L: as far as the dimensions
09:09 PM Tom_L: i think you said yours had the Efinix chip on it
09:10 PM Tom_L: he had his hands full just trying to update a bunch of boards during the chip shortage
09:35 PM pcw---home: What manual has wrong pdf dimensions?
09:37 PM roycroft: i forget what board he said he has
09:38 PM roycroft: iirc he said it was 207mm long
09:38 PM roycroft: if that gives you any indication
09:38 PM roycroft: we were commention on how large that is
09:39 PM roycroft: the person with the board is .le_potato@
09:39 PM xxcoder: might be 7i96s
09:39 PM roycroft: tom's logs will probably tell you
09:39 PM xxcoder: he linked to thatboard anyway'
09:39 PM roycroft: no, that board is nowhere near tht big
09:39 PM roycroft: i have a 7i96s
09:39 PM roycroft: and it's more like 125mm long
09:39 PM xxcoder: oh it was first link he also menions 7176eu and 7i95t
09:40 PM xxcoder: oh he says this "ty, i order 95t"
09:40 PM xxcoder: 7i95t I assume?
09:41 PM pcw---home: I thought it was a 7I95T but that 8.5" long (215.9 mm)
09:42 PM pcw---home: I don't see any obvious issues (looking at the manual and gerbers)
09:42 PM lcnc-relay: <xxcoder@> .le_potato@ could you confirm what board you ordered?
09:43 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> 7i95t
09:43 PM pcw---home: What is the error?
09:44 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> xxcoder@: 7i95t
09:44 PM xxcoder: yeah, pcw asked you a question :)
09:44 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> ah
09:44 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> in the PDF the meassurements are not good
09:44 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> the dimensions
09:46 PM xxcoder: would it be all of them, or one or more?>
09:46 PM pcw---home: what dimensions? they match the gerbers as far as I can tell
09:46 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> none of them good
09:47 PM pcw---home: I am looking at the gerbers (PCB artwork) and they match the PDF in the manual
09:47 PM lfluffywof: pcw! long time no see.
09:47 PM lfluffywof is now known as fluffywolf
09:47 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> can you tell me the wideness in mm?
09:48 PM pcw---home: board is 8.5"x4.00"
09:49 PM pcw---home: so 215.9mm x 101.6mm
09:50 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> 101.80mm is
09:50 PM roycroft: the board or the pdf?
09:50 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> from the ethernet board
09:51 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> ethernet port*
09:52 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> from 1st screw and 2nd screw difference is 67.44mm
09:52 PM roycroft: xxcoder:i just logged into my thermostat to figure out how to set a temperature and hold it until i reset it, and found that it has a vacation feature that will do exactly that on a predefined schedule
09:52 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> 3rd 95.57mm
09:52 PM xxcoder: roy nice
09:52 PM roycroft: so i told it what time i'm leaving tomorrow and what time i'm returning home on monday, and what temperature to hold while i'm gone
09:53 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> 4. 123.97mm
09:53 PM roycroft: yeah, it's especially nice because it will have the house back to it's normal temperature by the time i get home
09:54 PM roycroft: it has a pid controller and figure out over time when to turn on and off to get the temperature to my setpoint at the proper time
09:54 PM fluffywolf: my thermostat also has a pid controller, but predates the internet. lol
09:54 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> 1. 0", 2. 2.655", 3. 3,762", pcw can you confirm?
09:54 PM roycroft: i set it to 28 degrees while i'm gone, which is ~82f
09:54 PM roycroft: the cats can deal with that
09:55 PM fluffywolf: (an old monitor kerosene heater - they have surprisingly smart temperature control, to go with the four burner power levels)
09:55 PM roycroft: i normally keep the house at 23.5 in the summer
09:55 PM pcw---home: Ahh yes I was just looking at the mounting holes, the drawing is for a 7I95 so the mounting holes and main connectors are the same but the Ethernet connector may be different
09:55 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> just tell me the distances 🙂
09:56 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> from ethernet port side
09:57 PM pcw---home: The distance between mounting holes in the drawing is correct 2.825" from the board edge to the second and then 1.100" between
09:58 PM roycroft: .le_potato@: if you are going to print a mounting bracket for your mesa board and you're getting help from us on the dimensions, i would ask that you consider uploading the file to somewhere like thingiverse when you have a good design
09:58 PM xxcoder: I usually use printables but indeed
09:59 PM roycroft: so we don't have to help anyone else with the same problem other than pointing them to the file
09:59 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> pcw: 2.814" on my board, not 2.825"
09:59 PM roycroft: i said "somewhere like", and i would not try to dictate where it gets posted
10:00 PM roycroft: if there's a good place on the linuxcnc forum to post it that might be a good place as well
10:00 PM roycroft: and if there's not there should be :)
10:01 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/970073761770512384/1392699433938059324/image.png?ex=68707bec&is=686f2a6c&hm=dce77a239d9b3d0ac521426a0b41889ab240d4f5cc8cb595cd78acaf486de84f&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
10:01 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/970073761770512384/1392308675967975596/image.png?ex=68706180&is=686f1000&hm=bc7754ca1be5440e92b9d5e81fc0c6aa22f00580192682f29db8d950ab32c6be&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
10:01 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> roycroft you can choose 🙂
10:02 PM * roycroft does not like choosing for others
10:02 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> haha
10:02 PM * fluffywolf is also a bottom
10:03 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> pcw, or i got a clone board. haha
10:03 PM fluffywolf: I started trying to get to my cnc mill today... I have too much stuff in the way. somehow I've collected enough silver face receivers stacked up to wall myself off from being able to get to the mill.
10:04 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> i have to get a vise
10:06 PM pcw---home: The gerbers measure 2.825" from the left side for the second hole (same on top and bottom)
10:06 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> not on my pcb!
10:07 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> pcw do you have board at you?
10:08 PM pcw---home: I have the artwork
10:14 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> is it helps if i take picture with meassurements?
10:15 PM fluffywolf: yes
10:15 PM pcw---home: I can check a card tomorrow but I don't see how it will not match the artwork
10:16 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> i will do it on unimetro
10:20 PM * roycroft does wonder why a person would pick a nickname that means "less than or equal to a pointer to a potato"
10:20 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> lmao
10:21 PM roycroft: self esteem, much?
10:21 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> i used name like DEViANCE, if you remember...small crack group
10:21 PM roycroft: context does get pretty convoluted on the internet
10:23 PM fluffywolf: maybe it's a little-endian potato, i.e. some small low-performance system with the bytes the wrong way around? :)
10:23 PM roycroft: the eyes are innies?
10:24 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> its 5:13AM, thats pretty not normal
10:25 PM fluffywolf: lol
10:26 PM lcnc-relay: <.le_potato@> my friend made AoE2 nocd-key patch, lol
10:27 PM * fluffywolf also has a boring nick
11:50 PM xxcoder: ugh had to do little bit of repair on my mx mouse lol
11:50 PM xxcoder: free wheel still isnt as free as it was when it was new, but improved