#linuxcnc Logs
Sep 07 2024
#linuxcnc Calendar
12:17 AM lcnc-relay: <zmrdko (@_discord_397707718582075420:jauriarts.org)> Thanks Tom, this is exactly what I needed. Now I only have to find out, how to add this to probe_basic
02:47 AM lcnc-relay: <vibram> Update regarding my issue with the loadusr command, I always get a permission denied
02:48 AM lcnc-relay: <vibram> Even if the file only contain a "print" hello world""
02:49 AM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> vibram are you trying to use these commands as root?
02:50 AM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> how did you install Linuxcnc?
03:00 AM lcnc-relay: <meisterdippel> move it into /usr/local/bin , chmod 755 /usr/local/bin/YOUR_CMD, check the first line: e.g.: '#!/usr/bin/python3'
03:00 AM lcnc-relay: <meisterdippel> print("hallo")
03:01 AM lcnc-relay: <meisterdippel> py3 syntax
03:10 AM lcnc-relay: <vibram> With the official. Website iso
03:10 AM lcnc-relay: <vibram> Instead of usr/bin
03:10 AM lcnc-relay: <vibram> ?
03:11 AM lcnc-relay: <vibram> The loadusr command is ran into halrun
03:11 AM lcnc-relay: <vibram> I can run sudo halrun ou without sudo I have the same issue
03:13 AM lcnc-relay: <meisterdippel> /usr/bin/ is only for debian package files
03:15 AM lcnc-relay: <vibram> OK
03:16 AM lcnc-relay: <vibram> So I move my python file
03:16 AM lcnc-relay: <vibram> But I need to change my command in halrun too I guess?
03:18 AM lcnc-relay: <meisterdippel> oliver@station:~$ cat <<EOF | sudo tee /usr/local/bin/myhalcomp
03:18 AM lcnc-relay: #!/usr/bin/python3
03:18 AM lcnc-relay: print("Hallo halcomp")
03:18 AM lcnc-relay: EOF
03:18 AM lcnc-relay: #!/usr/bin/python3
03:18 AM lcnc-relay: print("Hallo halcomp")
03:18 AM lcnc-relay: oliver@station:~$
03:18 AM lcnc-relay: oliver@station:~$ sudo chmod 755 /usr/local/bin/myhalcomp
03:19 AM lcnc-relay: oliver@station:~$
03:19 AM lcnc-relay: oliver@station:~$ /usr/local/bin/myhalcomp
03:19 AM lcnc-relay: Hallo halcomp
03:19 AM lcnc-relay: oliver@station:~$
03:19 AM lcnc-relay: oliver@station:~$ halrun
03:19 AM lcnc-relay: halcmd: loadusr myhalcomp
03:19 AM lcnc-relay: halcmd: Hallo halcomp
03:19 AM lcnc-relay: halcmd: exit
03:19 AM lcnc-relay: Note: Using POSIX non-realtime
03:19 AM lcnc-relay: oliver@station:~$
03:20 AM lcnc-relay: <meisterdippel> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/NIGURukfnzeKkWZvjAwPzRwS/hal.png
03:24 AM lcnc-relay: <vibram> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/fvOIesAWWhbnzWzHdqrrlDWI/rn_image_picker_lib_temp_ee699d2b-6000-4127-be12-2c664813947c.jpg
03:25 AM lcnc-relay: <vibram> Maybe something wrong with my python setup?
03:27 AM lcnc-relay: <meisterdippel> use python3 on newer debian systems, there is no python2 anymore und maybe no link from python to python3
03:27 AM lcnc-relay: <meisterdippel> check the first line in your ac script
03:28 AM lcnc-relay: <meisterdippel> loadusr python3 /usr/local/bin/ac
03:28 AM lcnc-relay: <meisterdippel> or try this
03:28 AM lcnc-relay: <vibram> First line line is exactly like yours
03:29 AM lcnc-relay: <meisterdippel> and better using some longer names, the chance is to big that an other command exist with the name 'ac'
03:32 AM lcnc-relay: <vibram> This one is working
03:33 AM lcnc-relay: <meisterdippel> and your fist line is wrong: /usr/bin: bad....
03:33 AM lcnc-relay: <meisterdippel> special characters ???
03:34 AM lcnc-relay: <meisterdippel> spaces ?
03:34 AM lcnc-relay: <vibram> Halleluia 😉
03:35 AM lcnc-relay: <vibram> Loadusr python3 /usr/bin/arduino-connector was the one
03:35 AM lcnc-relay: <vibram> With first row in py file as #!/usr/bin python3
03:35 AM lcnc-relay: <vibram> Ffs
03:35 AM lcnc-relay: <meisterdippel> bin/py... not bin py...
03:36 AM lcnc-relay: <meisterdippel> 🙂
03:36 AM lcnc-relay: <vibram> This one was a nightmare honestly
03:36 AM lcnc-relay: <vibram> Thanks a lot..
03:41 AM lcnc-relay: <meisterdippel> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/show-your-stuff/52435-gcode-ngc-preview-thumbnailer
03:42 AM lcnc-relay: <meisterdippel> line 49/50: width = pos_max_x - pos_min_x
03:42 AM lcnc-relay: height = pos_max_y - pos_min_y
03:44 AM lcnc-relay: <meisterdippel> if someone wants to build a new gui, i like the one from datron: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFhAovrLCGA
03:46 AM lcnc-relay: <meisterdippel> the only cnc big player who has ever thought about a modern gui
03:48 AM lcnc-relay: <vibram> This is more than a gui
03:48 AM lcnc-relay: <vibram> Something like an improved conversational
03:50 AM lcnc-relay: <meisterdippel> what you can also learn from 3d printers, they save preview images in the nc file, which is an advantage when loading because you can see directly what you want to load there
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04:18 AM JT-Cave: morning
04:29 AM lcnc-relay: <zmrdko (@_discord_397707718582075420:jauriarts.org)> Thats actually nice idea. It would have to be created in fusion i think
04:39 AM Tom_L: morning
04:44 AM Tom_L: JT-Cave, i don't have the rcc file to create resources.py
04:44 AM Tom_L: it's not in pyqt6 and not installed on my pc either
04:44 AM Tom_L: what did you use?
04:45 AM Tom_L: also all i see is pyside2 in synaptic
04:48 AM JT-Cave: qt6-base-dev-tools
04:51 AM Centurion_Dan1 is now known as Centurion_Dan
04:58 AM lcnc-relay: <meisterdippel> don't know if it's supported in fusion and i don't know if any linuxcnc gui supports this, but someone should start with 🙂
04:59 AM lcnc-relay: <meisterdippel> you could also run a script over your files that creates thumbnails afterwards
05:25 AM Deejay: hi
05:29 AM lcnc-relay: <meisterdippel> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/PXIWLXEUAshxGusuCJMFNWpL/ngc.png
05:29 AM lcnc-relay: <meisterdippel> it is possible to generate thumbnails for thunar
05:55 AM lcnc-relay: <meisterdippel> little thumbnailer script to generate previews for thunar and other filemanagers: https://github.com/multigcs/riocore/blob/dev/riocore/files/ngc2svg-thumbnailer.sh
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07:43 AM lcnc-relay: <onceloved.cn> Directly execute the .sh file. Will all files with the suffix .ngc in the directory generate thumbnails?
08:21 AM lcnc-relay: <Lcvette> morning
08:21 AM lcnc-relay: <Lcvette> o/
08:24 AM lcnc-relay: <Lcvette> was wondering if there is a current go to PC people like for low latency with Ethernet mesa cards
08:36 AM lcnc-relay: <zmrdko (@_discord_397707718582075420:jauriarts.org)> I tried quite a lot of PCs, what are you looking for?
09:29 AM roycroft: today i'll be hauling the last load out of the old house, save some things in the garage
09:29 AM * roycroft will be happy that that phase of the move is finally done
09:29 AM roycroft: i have some elections work to do first, though
09:29 AM roycroft: but i should be able to get the load moved this afternoon
09:55 AM Tom_L: https://x.com/JulianFried/status/1832160202768175120
10:04 AM Tom_L: JT-Shop, thanks
10:05 AM Tom_L: still not in the path though
10:13 AM JT-Woodshop: what does witch say
10:13 AM Tom_L: not found but i entered the path and created the resource.py file
10:13 AM Tom_L: then changed from pyside in the file
10:14 AM Tom_L: i got bigger problems though. i think the drive is going south
10:16 AM JT-Woodshop: ouch
10:18 AM Tom_L: nearly every other boot it boots into initramfs
10:19 AM Tom_L: i've got a spare ssd i'll load sometime today
10:24 AM rdtsc: seems like things are quickly complicating for several of us... think the drain out to the street is getting plugged... currently rearranging lab area (right next to snake access) for an emergency clean-out
10:24 AM rdtsc: $$$
10:25 AM rdtsc: big red maple out front - beautiful tree, but plays hell on the pipes
10:29 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/temp/house/drain2.jpg
10:30 AM Tom_L: been there done that
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11:43 AM JT-Cave: nap time
11:53 AM Tom_L: pretty close
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12:06 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> Tom_L: cleaning the mill after the nickel job......
12:08 PM xxcoder: oh good you got paid in nickels ;)
12:08 PM xxcoder: how did job go
12:08 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> job went ok. got it done, parts were accepted
12:10 PM xxcoder: nice
12:16 PM Tom_L: roguish, http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/button_img_qss2.png
12:20 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> Tom_L: looking good
12:20 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> ya got pics on buttons
12:23 PM JT-Shop: is using the resource.py?
12:23 PM Tom_L: no i'm building a pc atm
12:24 PM Tom_L: i did generate the file
12:24 PM Tom_L: but not sure how to tie resources.py into the demo
12:25 PM JT-Shop: you import it
12:25 PM Tom_L: all i have is a .ui and ini file other than the flex install
12:25 PM Tom_L: not sure where to do that
12:26 PM Tom_L: can't get to it right at the moment anyway
12:26 PM JT-Shop: hmm
12:26 PM JT-Shop: I'll have to test
12:26 PM Tom_L: it's just a demo folder
12:26 PM JT-Shop: ok
12:26 PM Tom_L: with the sim stuff an ini and ui
12:27 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> fricking tiny nickel splinters in the fingers hurt.....
12:27 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> at least they don't rust or corrode
12:27 PM JT-Shop: don't do that
12:27 PM Tom_L: my kid wears gloves
12:27 PM Tom_L: but that's more for the huge sharp edges
12:28 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> these go right thru my niterile gloves
12:28 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> let 'em fester a day or so, then pick 'em out with a new, very sharp pointy exacto
12:37 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, you'd think if you created the file in designer you could address those image files in the qss file
12:37 PM Tom_L: without the resources.py file
12:38 PM JT-Shop: the designer just makes an xml file with the names of the resource items
12:38 PM JT-Shop: the resource.py file has the images in it
12:38 PM Tom_L: what is that file used for then?
12:39 PM JT-Shop: it's used to generate th epy file
12:39 PM Tom_L: just a go between to create the .py file?
12:39 PM JT-Shop: seems so
12:40 PM Tom_L: not sure what file to put the import resources.py in then
12:40 PM JT-Shop: I need to do some tests
12:41 PM Tom_L: i think the ports are going out on the SATA driver
12:42 PM JT-Shop: ouch
12:42 PM JT-Shop: I have to replace the headlight plugs on the C3
12:42 PM Tom_L: first 2 i tried didn't recognize the new drive
12:42 PM Tom_L: wonder if that's the problem with the os instead of the drive itself
12:44 PM Tom_L: i may swap boards out too
02:12 PM Tom_L: hah.. backup SD i just made went tits up
02:12 PM Tom_L: luckily i got most of it off
02:12 PM Tom_L: lost all my test config files
02:25 PM rdtsc: oh no
02:30 PM _unreal_: finished the framing material removing of the relief part I'm making
02:31 PM _unreal_: now I'm milling the rough surface
02:31 PM _unreal_: sucks I dont have any 1/16" ball bits :(
02:31 PM _unreal_: I'm toying with going to ace hardware. its a long drive though :(
02:31 PM _unreal_: and i'm 99% sure lows and home depot got CRAP
02:32 PM rdtsc: Did something change in Flex recently involving units and convert to float? https://pasteboard.co/3Lu8fQPCSfJS.jpg
02:33 PM rdtsc: _unreal, eBay one
02:34 PM Tom_L: rdtsc, that's not an error but i forgot the fix
02:34 PM rdtsc: _unreal, https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=1%2F16+ball+end+mill&_sacat=0&_sop=15
02:34 PM Tom_L: i ran across that last week or so
02:34 PM Tom_L: i can't recall what fixed it right now
02:34 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop,
02:34 PM Tom_L: ?
02:36 PM Tom_L: i think it's the same issue anyway
02:37 PM Tom_L: unfortunately i don't have access to any of it atm
02:41 PM rdtsc: JT working on his 'vette?
02:42 PM Tom_L: dunno
02:42 PM rdtsc: hmm, anyone know a good way to seal a leaking polypropylene fuel tank? for a snowblower, the seam developed a leak. oil+gas mix
02:43 PM Tom_L: order a new tank
02:43 PM rdtsc: i'd love to, but it's part of the whole top housing
02:52 PM Tom_L: oh i remember now
02:53 PM Tom_L: rdtsc, go into the ini and change INCREMENTS .1in .05in to .1in, .05in
02:53 PM Tom_L: comma separated OR
02:53 PM Tom_L: download the latest deb
02:54 PM Tom_L: iirc he fixed that to check for comma delimited but you have an old ver
02:55 PM rdtsc: that was it :)
03:41 PM lcnc-relay: <Travis Farmer> i feel proud of myself... made a fuel tank gauge for my two 100 pound LP tanks, using a load-cell, and an Arduino Giga 🙂
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04:04 PM JT-Shop: Tom_L, so I'm working on adding the resources to flex
04:04 PM JT-Shop: basicly you have the qss and py file in the config dir and in the ini specify them
04:05 PM Tom_L: ok
04:05 PM Tom_L: just got the basics back up
04:05 PM JT-Shop: not done yet but working on it
04:05 PM Tom_L: i may try pushing something to test it
04:05 PM JT-Shop: should have it working in the morning
04:07 PM rdtsc: neat Travis
04:08 PM rdtsc: think i found a replacement top cover... https://www.partstree.com/parts/toro-75-8800/ less than some others but still cringe-worthy
04:10 PM JT-Shop: they are proud of that
04:17 PM lcnc-relay: <Travis Farmer> lots of R&D cost 😉
04:22 PM _unreal_: rdtsc, thanks. I'm going to order these https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CRV5J4MX/ref=sw_img_1?smid=A2OXT05DX4BQ91&psc=1 I need them to be long
04:24 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, what directory should the qrc file be in?
04:25 PM _unreal_: rdtsc, fuel tanks are tricky because of the content. are you 100%!! sure its polypropylene
04:25 PM _unreal_: and you said its on a seam right? a corner or a butt
04:25 PM _unreal_: ?
04:26 PM JT-Shop: Tom_L, it doesn't matter all you need is the resources.py file
04:26 PM JT-Shop: the qrc is used to generate the py file
04:26 PM _unreal_: rdtsc, https://palmlabsadhesives.com/products/cyanoacrylates/surface-insensitive/
04:27 PM _unreal_: and use 2p-10 instant curing spray agent
04:28 PM _unreal_: if it is on a corner, I would suggest getting a sheet of 1/8-1/16 thick sheet of the same material. FOLD it if it is on a corner, join the corner with that glue. then use the additive of that sheet material flat or folded if it is a corner. and glue it on as well. to act as a doubler
04:30 PM Tom_L: ok
04:32 PM _unreal_: I'm very happy with the results of what my cnc machine has done so far.
04:33 PM rdtsc: the tank looks to be ultrasonically welded to the shroud, and it leaks somewhere along the seam. "Tank sealers" are all ridiculously priced. Just researched POR-15 Fuel Tank Sealer as 8oz was only $16 but that looks to be for metal tanks only.
04:34 PM rdtsc: Wonder if I could get it with hot air and a putty knife lol
04:41 PM _unreal_: A re-work station hot air station will done a fine job
04:41 PM _unreal_: again what is the content. gas or desiel?
04:42 PM rdtsc: premix gas
04:42 PM _unreal_: and a stick of the same material
04:42 PM _unreal_: you could re-weld it
04:42 PM _unreal_: the main problem is the content both after the fix and fixing
04:43 PM _unreal_: "welding" stations for those kinds of tanks are literally hot air reflow stations only in a gun form with a fixed holder that feeds a plastic stick of the same material
04:43 PM _unreal_: they work great I have uswed them in the past been a while
04:44 PM _unreal_: I would suggest hot air before gleu
04:44 PM _unreal_: 10x to 1
04:44 PM _unreal_: glue your counting on it to melt and bond the material that you are dealing with
04:46 PM JT-Shop: I used to do a lot of work on machines that assembled gas tanks and some are heat and pressure welded and some are ultrasonic and pressure welded just depends on the material
05:11 PM Tom_L: ok i got resources.py to build
05:11 PM Tom_L: had to add qt6 to the path
05:11 PM JT-Shop: I don't remember having to do that
05:12 PM Tom_L: otherwise it looks in qt5
05:13 PM Tom_L: and it's not in the bin directory
05:13 PM Tom_L: it's in libexec
05:13 PM JT-Shop: also I noticed that the lib you need it's pyqt6-dev-tools
05:14 PM Tom_L: lib for what?
05:14 PM Tom_L: i have that installed
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05:15 PM Tom_dev: qttools5-dev-tools is needed for designer
05:15 PM Tom_dev: but the rest are all qt6 libs
05:16 PM Tom_L: caja got corrupt on the old drive
05:17 PM Tom_L: i'm not sure what happened
05:18 PM Tom_L: wonder why they dropped rcc for qt
05:20 PM JT-Shop: pyqt6-dev-tools has rcc
05:20 PM Tom_dev: what folder does it install in?
05:21 PM JT-Shop: john@machineshop:~$ which rcc
05:21 PM Tom_dev: the one pyqt6-dev-tools has
05:21 PM JT-Shop: /usr/bin/rcc
05:21 PM Tom_dev: i have that installed
05:22 PM Tom_dev: wonder why it wouldn't execute
05:22 PM Tom_dev: i see it there
05:23 PM Tom_dev: maybe i don't need both of them installed
05:23 PM Tom_dev: usr/bin is in the path
05:24 PM Tom_dev: there is a /usr/local/bin but it's empty
05:25 PM Tom_dev: ^^ in the path
05:25 PM JT-Shop: lot of bin dir
05:26 PM Tom_dev: they're both the same version
05:27 PM Tom_dev: maybe i don't need qt6-base-dev-tools
05:31 PM Tom_dev: i changed the path to /usr/bin first and it still looks for qt5
05:31 PM JT-Shop: rcc?
05:32 PM Tom_dev: yes
05:32 PM Tom_dev: /usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games
05:32 PM JT-Shop: when I run it there is no echo of what it does
05:33 PM Tom_dev: i change to that directory and run rcc and it still doesn't execute it
05:33 PM Tom_dev: rcc: could not exec '/usr/lib/qt5/bin/rcc': No such file or directory
05:33 PM JT-Shop: are you just doing rcc without the arguments
05:34 PM JT-Shop: mine is in usr/bin
05:34 PM Tom_dev: yes just to test it's there
05:34 PM Tom_dev: i'm in /usr/bin
05:34 PM JT-Shop: I don't think that you can just do rcc in a terminal
05:34 PM JT-Shop: the command has switches and python call
05:35 PM Tom_dev: before i got a help screen
05:35 PM JT-Shop: I've not seen that
05:37 PM Tom_dev: tom@debian12:/usr/lib/qt6/libexec$ rcc
05:37 PM Tom_dev: rcc: No input files specified.
05:37 PM Tom_dev: Usage: rcc [options] inputs
05:37 PM Tom_dev: Qt Resource Compiler version 6.4.2
05:38 PM Tom_dev: odd
05:38 PM JT-Shop: john@machineshop:~$ rcc
05:38 PM JT-Shop: rcc: could not exec '/usr/lib/qt5/bin/rcc': No such file or directory
05:38 PM Tom_dev: what version?
05:39 PM JT-Shop: looks like I have 5 on this pc
05:39 PM Tom_dev: as long as it works...
05:39 PM JT-Shop: I don't do much on this pc, I do my dev down in the beer cave
05:40 PM Tom_dev: i try to stick with one pc for that
05:40 PM Tom_dev: doesn't always work
05:40 PM Tom_dev: if i'm testing rpi or RTAI etc
05:41 PM Tom_dev: luckily i have more than one 12 install so i took the bad ssd and mounted it on another pc and got what i needed
05:43 PM Tom_L: also i've been mapping my server so i don't need filezilla anymore for that
05:45 PM Tom_L: i just added the path to .bashrc
06:14 PM JT-Shop: night
06:16 PM Tom_L: later
07:13 PM Tom_L: JT-Cave, PR #116 mesact
07:16 PM Tom_L: rdtsc, just posted a new deb
07:38 PM Unterhaus__ is now known as Unterhausen
08:51 PM xxcoder: interesting print. https://youtu.be/moIEvfucojc
08:51 PM xxcoder: guy printed air blower thing with check valve included in it.
09:09 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/NxkbjuLCPvnNRlfhjNaMuktG/PXL_20240907_232758243.jpg
09:09 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> Didn't go boom yet
09:28 PM xxcoder: blundy lol new name for blondihack according to autocaptions
10:13 PM _unreal_: skunkworks, ya got some shadows there. clearly that boards been in use for some time.
10:13 PM _unreal_: t4nk_fn, some updated photos https://photos.app.goo.gl/ggAPhV6uwbvr4jLs8
10:24 PM t4nk_fn: poor tree :|
10:48 PM _unreal_: I kill it I kill it good
10:49 PM _unreal_: t4nk_fn, I'm making this https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-disney-world-magic-kingdom-the-haunted-mansion-39443
10:50 PM lcnc-relay: <handsomebeast> hi guys, trying to update linuxcnc from 2.9.2 to 2.9.3, im using the RTAI kernel 5.4.258, ive used a terminal to sudo apt-get update, and used sypnatics package manager and updated using that, but linuxcnc is still on 2.9.2
10:51 PM lcnc-relay: <handsomebeast> using debian 12 bookworm
10:52 PM lcnc-relay: <handsomebeast> linuxcnc.org says it will update automatically but it has not
10:53 PM _unreal_: have you rebooted the computer?
10:53 PM lcnc-relay: <handsomebeast> yes several times still on 2.9.2
10:53 PM _unreal_: had to ask.
10:54 PM lcnc-relay: <handsomebeast> when searching in package manager only linuxcnc 2.9 comes up
10:55 PM _unreal_: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/53299-2-9-3-iso-issue
10:55 PM lcnc-relay: <handsomebeast> also tried adding the repository for linuxcnc to repositories, and get an error that it is not signed
10:58 PM _unreal_: have you been running the older version for some time?
10:58 PM lcnc-relay: <handsomebeast> ok will try this thankyou sudo apt update
10:58 PM lcnc-relay: sudo apt upgrade
10:58 PM _unreal_: i.e. 2-3 years?
10:59 PM _unreal_: I have not bothered to update becuase what I have working works fine.
10:59 PM _unreal_: those post's trying to solve that issue are from a few years ago so. I would assume you have been using that version for some time now.
11:02 PM lcnc-relay: <handsomebeast> i was on 2.8 for the last couple years on debian 10 buster till i upgraded the pc and tried debian 12 bookworm after a suggestion from an iirc member who helped me, as i couldnt get RTAI kernel running from the iso images on linuxcnc.org, upgraded about 3 months ago when 2.9.2 was released, had to install a vanilla install of debian 12 and add the rtai kernel , modules and linuxcnc package for rtai kernel 5.4.258
11:03 PM lcnc-relay: <handsomebeast> i was on 2.8 for the last couple years on debian 10 buster till i upgraded the pc and tried debian 12 bookworm after a suggestion from an iirc member who helped me, as i couldnt get RTAI kernel running from the iso images on linuxcnc.org, upgraded about 3 months ago when 2.9.2 was released, had to install a vanilla install of debian 12 bookworm and add the rtai kernel , modules and linuxcnc package for rtai kernel 5.4.258, it...
11:04 PM lcnc-relay: ... has been fine just wanted to update to 2.9.3 as it has bug fixes and i like to keep thing current,
11:17 PM Tom_L: i'm not sure there is a 2.9.3 RTAI package yet
11:17 PM Tom_L: the updates would be uspace
11:18 PM Tom_L: http://linuxcnc.org/downloads/
11:19 PM Tom_L: near the bottom would be the latest but i think it's an install not an upgrade
11:20 PM lcnc-relay: <onceloved.cn> It would be much simpler if you don't use rtai
11:20 PM Tom_L: and there is a newer experimental RTAI somewhere iirc
11:21 PM Tom_L: is there a reason you need RTAI?
11:21 PM Tom_L: i have a pc with a recent copy i've been testing off and on
11:23 PM lcnc-relay: <handsomebeast> I need RTAI because I'm using a parallel breakout boards. And I have high jitter without it
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11:24 PM Tom_dev: Linux bookworm 5.4.279-rtai-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Jul 9 19:17:37 UTC 2024 x86_64 GNU/Linux
11:24 PM Tom_dev: running 2.9.2
11:26 PM Tom_dev: it's been a bit since i worked with it
11:28 PM Tom_dev: https://onelaboratories.us/abc/
11:28 PM Tom_L: you need all 4 files
11:29 PM Tom_L: but these are the guys maintaining RTAI afik
11:29 PM lcnc-relay: <handsomebeast> * board. And I have high jitter without it. My base thread is at 5-7k with RTAI kernel. Thanks for the info guys. So I cannot update to 2.9.3 because it's not supported on 2.9.3. gotcha
11:29 PM Tom_L: the latency was good on my pc with this
11:29 PM lcnc-relay: <onceloved.cn> Can ethercat be installed?
11:29 PM Tom_L: i've no idea
11:30 PM lcnc-relay: <handsomebeast> Thanks Tom I'll try that
11:30 PM Tom_L: i would have my doubts
11:30 PM Tom_L: quite experimental at this point...
11:30 PM Tom_L: fwiw
11:30 PM Tom_L: i may have some notes somewhere...
11:31 PM lcnc-relay: <handsomebeast> Thankyou much appreciated 👍
11:31 PM Tom_dev: install debian 12 normally then these
11:33 PM lcnc-relay: <handsomebeast> I would upgrade to a Mesa board but the thought of starting again when I have everything set up and working as intended seems daunting. As I have modbus for the vfd and M6 remap for tool height, and touch probe all set up and working great.
11:33 PM Tom_dev: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/configs/RTAI-notes/
11:33 PM Tom_dev: just some notes i kept on the topic
11:34 PM Tom_dev: there are 2 versions mentioned, use the newest one
11:34 PM Tom_dev: 279
11:35 PM lcnc-relay: <handsomebeast> Thankyou tom
11:37 PM Tom_dev: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/RTAI_TEST/tom-08Jul2024-1362.png
11:38 PM Tom_dev: that was the earlier version
11:38 PM Tom_dev: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/RTAI_TEST/tom-07Jul2024-597.png
11:39 PM Tom_dev: you should set isolcpus too
11:40 PM lcnc-relay: <handsomebeast> yh i have isocplus set, using a dell optiplex 980, dual core i5 and set isocplus=1 i think have to check, but that latency looks incredible
11:41 PM Tom_dev: quiet isolcpus=2,3 idle=poll
11:41 PM Tom_dev: on this one
11:41 PM lcnc-relay: <handsomebeast> thats the same cpu in the 980
11:42 PM Tom_dev: grub customizer is your friend
11:43 PM Tom_dev: let captainhindsight know the results if you try it
11:44 PM Tom_dev: don't try to upgrade lcnc thru normal channels with this. it won't work
11:46 PM lcnc-relay: <handsomebeast> i use grub customiser, "let captainhindsight know the results if you try i t"
11:46 PM lcnc-relay: you mean post results here?
11:47 PM lcnc-relay: <handsomebeast> or is that the author of the kernel
11:47 PM Tom_L: no he works with ntulinux iirc
11:47 PM Tom_L: ntulinux is the maintainer of RTAI
11:49 PM lcnc-relay: <handsomebeast> i have 2 identical optiplex 980s incase something dies, so i can do it on the spare one and let him know how it went and give results, how do i get hold of him?
11:49 PM Tom_L: he's here off and on
11:49 PM Tom_L: capn that is
11:49 PM Tom_L: ntulinux not so much
11:49 PM lcnc-relay: <handsomebeast> ok ty
11:50 PM Tom_L: was looking for his git repo
11:51 PM lcnc-relay: <handsomebeast> if it helps the community im all for it as ive had so much help from you guys as a newbie to linux and cnc its been so helpful, if it wasnt for all the help on iirc, the forums and here i would have just given up ages ago
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11:53 PM Tom_L: https://github.com/NTULINUX/RTAI
11:53 PM lcnc-relay: <handsomebeast> and RTAI enables people like me to get up and running with a cheap parralel breakout boards, costs like £10, instead of the £150-200 for a mesa card, and the paralell BOB is easily replacable in a day or 2
11:53 PM lcnc-relay: <handsomebeast> thankyou tom ill message him once ive got it all running and tested it
11:53 PM Tom_L: don't use the packages from the git though
11:54 PM Tom_L: everything has to be built as a set
11:54 PM lcnc-relay: <handsomebeast> ok will use the files in the link you posted
11:54 PM lcnc-relay: <handsomebeast> yh that git repo only supports amd64 cpus
11:55 PM Tom_L: support for RTAI is kinda hit and miss
11:55 PM Tom_L: this one seems good so far though
11:56 PM Tom_L: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/53163-new-and-working-rtai-debs-for-2-9?start=20#305356
11:57 PM Tom_L: there
11:59 PM lcnc-relay: <handsomebeast> thankyou
11:59 PM Tom_L: reading back, the only thing you may gain is the newer kernel since you said you're running 2.9.2 already
11:59 PM lcnc-relay: <handsomebeast> yes i am