#linuxcnc Logs
Aug 11 2024
#linuxcnc Calendar
02:09 AM lcnc-relay: <Travis Farmer> Morning
02:22 AM lcnc-relay: <TurBoss> good morning
02:31 AM lcnc-relay: <vibram> Hello
04:06 AM JT-Cave: morning
04:23 AM Tom_L: morning
04:40 AM Tom_L: did you do any more with hal_pin hal_in?
04:40 AM Tom_L: i was trying to think of a use case for it
04:41 AM Tom_L: and a way to test that
04:41 AM Tom_L: maybe a probe input?
04:59 AM JT-Cave: I've not looked at hal in quite a while
05:02 AM JT-Cave: fixed the plotter doc page
05:04 AM Tom_L: could use a CR after feedrate_lb to bring optional_stop_pb under it:
05:05 AM Tom_L: https://www.gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/flexgui/labels.html
05:05 AM Tom_L: same with axis_n_velocity_lb
05:06 AM Tom_L: Comming soon: Tool teeth label and Feed per Tooth label… stay tuned.
05:06 AM Tom_L: ?
05:07 AM Tom_L: for chipload?
05:10 AM Tom_L: https://www.gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/flexgui/menu.html#action-names
05:10 AM Tom_L: add plot action names
05:13 AM Tom_L: you have them on the plot page
05:13 AM Tom_L: but should they be there as well?
05:14 AM Tom_L: or "See plot menu for plot actions" to point to them from the menu page
05:27 AM JT-Cave: yeah a link to the plot page I think is good
05:30 AM Deejay: hi
05:33 AM JT-Cave: https://www.gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/flexgui/labels.html
05:33 AM JT-Cave: just reworked
05:36 AM JT-Cave: need a poster child photo for this page file:///home/john/github/flexgui/docs/build/html/description.html
05:36 AM JT-Cave: or rather this page https://www.gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/flexgui/description.html
05:56 AM JT-Cave: dawn has arrived
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08:41 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> Lol - It took 3 tries to find compression RG6 fittings that I could get to go on the cable I got...
09:23 AM JT-Cave: <Tom_L> Comming soon: Tool teeth label and Feed per Tooth label… stay tuned.
09:23 AM JT-Cave: Tom_L, where would that info come from?
09:23 AM Tom_L: umm...
09:24 AM Tom_L: https://www.gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/flexgui/labels.html
09:24 AM Tom_L: right above spindle status
09:25 AM Tom_L: where would the data come from? it would have to have the tooth count from the cutter
09:25 AM Tom_L: for chip load
09:26 AM Tom_L: then feedrate and rpm
09:26 AM Tom_L: in my cad cam it's in the tool setup pages
09:27 AM Tom_L: iirc you can enter 2 of the 3 and it calculates the 3rd
09:32 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/tooldata1.jpg
09:32 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/tooldata2.jpg
09:34 AM Tom_L: ipt is chipload
09:34 AM Tom_L: ipr i think is surface
09:34 AM Tom_L: more for lathe
09:35 AM Tom_L: the missing element is the tooth count
09:36 AM Tom_L: the tool table doesn't keep track of that
09:36 AM Tom_L: 99% of the time that's done in the cad
09:52 AM Tom_L: Feed Rate = RPM x number of flutes x chip load
09:52 AM Tom_L: RPM = feed rate / (number of flutes x chipload)
09:52 AM Tom_L: To calculate the surface speed, multiply pi by the diameter, then multiply again by the RPM.
09:55 AM Tom_L: https://images.app.goo.gl/MQajLLHJJP6KTSiVA
09:59 AM JT-Cave: the only info we have access to is diameter and commanded rpm IIRC
10:00 AM Tom_L: it could be a feed/speed/load calculator with inputs
10:00 AM Tom_L: beyond that there isn't enough data provided
10:01 AM Tom_L: popup like your number pad
10:02 AM Tom_L: somewhat out of the boundaries of a gui creator
10:04 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/tooldata2.jpg
10:04 AM Tom_L: on that iirc z plunge defaults to .5 the ipt or feedrate
10:04 AM Tom_L: you can override it
10:05 AM Tom_L: in that case SFM is based on tool diameter
10:05 AM Tom_L: on lathe it would be the material which is constantly changing
10:06 AM Tom_L: that img link pretty much has all the calcs
10:07 AM JT-Cave: I could do a calculator easy
10:07 AM Tom_L: that's your call. i can break it
10:07 AM Tom_L: :)
10:08 AM JT-Cave: I just don't think a "live" feed per tooth would be useful
10:08 AM Tom_L: that's the only way i see you can get what you need for data
10:08 AM Tom_L: nope
10:09 AM Tom_L: usually cutters are based on chipload whether it be at 1000 rpm or 30k
10:09 AM Tom_L: that's the constant
10:10 AM Tom_L: i think my kid said he fills a dumpster every 20-30 min where it would take me a couple years
10:10 AM Tom_L: chipload.
10:12 AM Tom_L: which also translates to load or a load meter
10:18 AM Tom_L: which translates to $ per rpm
10:21 AM Tom_L: alot of machines do use spindle load meters
10:25 AM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> skunkworks8841 is it up yet? 🙂
10:27 AM roycroft: today is patio day at the old house, which means i'll finally move my grill the new house
10:27 AM * roycroft has not grilled in months, which is very odd for him
11:07 AM * JT-Shop just committed himself to installing the new mail box and post
11:13 AM Tom_L: you made that post quite some time back didn't you?
11:20 AM JT-Shop: yup it's been done for a while
11:20 AM JT-Shop: I _think_ the hole is ready so cool down, nap, get some post set concrete and finish up the job
12:45 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/cWJqsxqEbZJlbORQXsiVtLQt/PXL_20240811_173455406.jpg
12:46 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/lWamLRpQaYnnXMaxKRRkqoxJ/who_Camera_1723397974314.jpg
01:06 PM xxcoder: nice view
01:06 PM xxcoder: congats on your success :)
01:42 PM Tom_L: cool
01:51 PM Tom_L: what is that clearing in the pic?
01:55 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> yes - I really don't know what I am looking at.. LOL
01:56 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420> can you rotate it? solar powered? cables? i want to do something like this at my house but in a tree
02:03 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> yes - right now it is manual - but I plan to put a rotor on it
02:04 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrlyiLGdJ3k
02:05 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/IMtiRFKWKAeWHYuCelKEfgSn/Capture.PNG
02:08 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> let the brain rot begin!
02:09 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> lol - i think mom is probably the only one that will watch it..
02:10 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> and she already has brain rot. (although I have been recording antique road show...)
02:11 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> it would have been funny if the first sight was another tower cam looking at you
02:11 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> lol
02:11 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> I have to spin it all the way around - the current direction certainly has tree's in the way
02:12 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/UetPeDYGAssONwWSSboTLpUE/Capture1.PNG
02:12 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> skunkworks8841 how is all that anchored?
02:12 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> 2 legs are 3/4 bolt.. (pivot) and the 3rd requres a strap
02:13 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> probably 2 inch angle iron and some 3/8 bolts
02:13 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> it will be cabled until then
02:15 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> in a block of concrete?
02:15 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> yes - the base is concrete
02:17 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/BjAgvuGEzDPkRqlskgIulGNj/who_Camera_1723403417972.jpg
02:17 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> That is the direction it is currently pointing
02:17 PM Tom_L: does the camera rotate or is it fixed to the pole?
02:18 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> it rotates with the antennas
02:19 PM Tom_L: separate from that was what i wondered
02:19 PM Tom_L: pan/tilt
02:19 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> No.. I didn't opt for that..
02:19 PM Tom_L: good pic though
02:19 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> it was kinda an afterthought - and this was a camera I had
02:19 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> is that East?
02:19 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> northish
02:20 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> actually - you might be right
02:20 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> I would have to look
02:21 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> I should take a level up and see if I need to adjust the 3rd leg any
02:21 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> hard to tell but it almost seems like the leg should be shortened a schosh..
02:21 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> 3rd leg
02:22 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> hard to tell when the ground isn't level by eye
02:22 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> right
02:22 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> hang a bob
02:22 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> and i need to figure out how long the angle iron needs to be
02:24 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> lol - I was watching the video and my son was standing next to the camera.. He starts going wow wow wow as it goes up
02:25 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> giant erector set
02:25 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> I got to get the video from that camera as the tower goes up
02:26 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> "what I did over summer vacation"
02:26 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> lol
02:28 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> I wonder of the cam is sensitive enough to see meteor showers?
02:29 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> https://www.space.com/watch-perseid-meteor-shower-2024-peak-free-livestream
02:31 PM JT-Shop: by 3pm the mailbox post should be set
02:32 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> epoxy or concrete?
02:34 PM JT-Shop: concrete
02:41 PM Tom_L: hope the mail person recognizes it's still you
03:03 PM JT-Shop: I noticed my neighbor put up a new post and large mailbox
03:07 PM xxcoder: wow winter is coming
03:07 PM xxcoder: all week is low 70s to high 60s f
03:39 PM * JT-Shop just got rid of a bunch of steel
03:41 PM xxcoder: I can really tell that people is using much less ac now. voltage have been at 122 for a while now. hotter days it was 116-119 or so
04:14 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/bMRhhuKGblyXBGusjnkLqKXm/PXL_20240811_210346375.jpg
04:14 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> iI dont think it is going anywhere
04:14 PM Tom_L: you're not in Kansas!
04:14 PM JT-Shop: looks good to me
04:14 PM Tom_L: todo
04:15 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, for kicks i plugged the chip calcs in the linux spreadsheet. pretty simple
04:15 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/feedcalc.ods
04:15 PM JT-Shop: cool, I can have a speed feed calc very easy
04:15 PM Tom_L: and sfm
04:16 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> Those are 1/2 bolts
04:16 PM Tom_L: i've never bothered since my cad does it all
04:16 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> Lol.. I a wrecked
04:16 PM * xxcoder plans a trip to that place and to scrapper place
04:16 PM xxcoder: kidding ;)
04:16 PM xxcoder: nice work
04:17 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> Iit pulled the tube over.. now it might be 1/4 off
04:17 PM * JT-Shop goes to screw the mailbox to the post
04:17 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> 1/4'
04:17 PM Tom_L: how deep is the pad?
04:17 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> Lol.. it is weird having Internet up here
04:18 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> Don't remember..
04:18 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> Dad poured it and I remember helping but that is about it
04:18 PM lcnc-relay: ..
04:19 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> 4ft is frost line.. I just don't know if it is solid or 3 posts that feep
04:19 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> Deep
04:19 PM xxcoder: if it havent been heaved up after decades it wont
04:19 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> It looks really good... No cracks in the concrete
04:20 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> And it seems pretty level still
04:20 PM Tom_L: you got fiber up there now too ehh?
04:21 PM Tom_L: put up a tent and you're good to go
04:21 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> Yep.. I have to ground the tower still and dress up the wires..
04:24 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> Have to bring an extension ladder up to remove the slings
04:25 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> It is pretty easy to climb up the first section.. but that is it
04:25 PM Tom_L: or leave em in case you wanna bring it down for service later
04:25 PM Tom_L: i suppose weather would take it's toll
04:43 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> yah - I don't think I want them in the sun
04:49 PM JT-Shop: mailbox done... time to relax
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06:50 PM xxcoder: ouch
06:50 PM xxcoder: millental mill company guy got scammed
06:50 PM xxcoder: they lost all money
07:13 PM lcnc-relay: <knoxmachining> Who’s that?
07:29 PM xxcoder: one of owners of millenium mill project
07:29 PM * roycroft is back, and the patio work at the old house is done
07:30 PM roycroft: my pickup is also fully-loaded, and my grill is at the very front, so it's the last thing to come off
07:30 PM roycroft: i'm not feeling like unloading the pickup, but i am feeling like grilling, so maybe loading the grill on first will end up being a good motivator
07:50 PM lcnc-relay: <knoxmachining> No idea who that is. Link to video?
07:52 PM xxcoder: its at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAxHBHUBA9c
07:52 PM xxcoder: you can skip the first 30 min
09:01 PM roycroft: well, my accidental self-incentive worked
09:01 PM xxcoder: nice lol
09:01 PM roycroft: i am very tired, physically, and suffering from the heat, but i am more tired of not being able to grill
09:01 PM roycroft: the grill is on and i am cooking! :)
09:02 PM xxcoder: thats good, ill come in as soon as youre done
09:14 PM roycroft: sure
09:14 PM roycroft: it's hot and a bit smokey here now, though
09:15 PM roycroft: actually, aqi in my part of town is in the single digits now, but i can smell the smoke
09:15 PM roycroft: and not from my grill :)
09:15 PM roycroft: mayhap the local sensors are malfunctioning
09:15 PM roycroft: it's in the upper double digits/low triple digits elsewhere in town
09:18 PM xxcoder: 2 digits here now. but lower than mid
09:18 PM xxcoder: pretty tame smokey hellscope for tacoma this year
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