#linuxcnc-devel Logs

Oct 31 2020

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09:33 PM droid3: curious i am wonder with software like blender what is different in the 3d models if you create them in solidworks instead
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09:34 PM droid3: what i am getting at is why is one 3d model from one cad program not identical if done identically in another cad program
09:35 PM droid3: for the cam /slicer/gcode translator program you pass the 3d model to
09:35 PM droid3: thats the big mystery question and the only way to truely figure this out is to have my own cnc machining factory and 3d printers to understand why ...
09:36 PM droid3: i say they come out the same if designed the same no matter what 3d cad software you generated the models with???\
09:36 PM droid3: But people been telling me know they dont come out the same.
09:37 PM Tom_L: this channel is reserved for the developement of linuxcnc
09:37 PM Tom_L: you can discuss it in the main channel if you wish
09:37 PM droid3: way what you guys as developers should think to make the CAD part more portable to the CAM part
09:38 PM Tom_L: this is a volunteer effort
09:38 PM droid3: so the 3d CAD program one choose to get good at translates to being the same quality across all cnc machines
09:39 PM droid3: hell all volunteer and solve that problem just give me access to the cnc machines/ equipment and a small test lab that be great
09:41 PM droid3: But most people dont have the balls to give me what i want
09:41 PM droid3: just kidding i just frustrated on why people would develop software for modeling in that aint portable..
09:42 PM droid3: didnt you think it would become a mass shit stain with tons of 3d model software people would have to learn to master every kind of manufacturing thing.
09:44 PM droid3: because it means me having to get provision-ate at tons of 3d cad software
09:44 PM droid3: not just master one 3d cad software to do it all
09:44 PM droid3: thats my frustration and the more frustrating part is i have to take peoples words for it if i dont have the ability to operate these cnc machines / practice on them
09:45 PM droid3: to see when portablity is truely a problem
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09:45 PM droid3: heck maybe all just stick to video game developing and pixar 3d movie/animation
09:45 PM droid3: but i like to achieve it all / kill 2 birds with one stone sort of speak.
09:47 PM droid3: but i got the time so what the fuck. its just without the resource i never beable to get the full picture with the cnc machines so i tend to just stick with doing 3d video games / movie animation side as at least i can uses those things.
09:48 PM droid3: i am just saying for the sake of making everything easy for the world make cad design portable is the big thing...
09:48 PM droid3: once you do that you have a few main 3d cad design software every company uses to complete the designs for the CAM layer and be done with it
09:49 PM droid3: so everybodies .stl ,.obj ...etc cad designs work for any cnc machine
09:50 PM droid3: then it just becomes the CAM layer / gcode layer being the non-portable part
09:51 PM droid3: but people supposely with more experience and certification think the last 50 year of cnc machines experience puts them at more of experts by far then me
09:52 PM Tom_L: feel free to change it
09:52 PM droid3: so how say 50 years of experience some how defines that they have better abilities or should control/ have access to the machines
09:52 PM droid3: i the fuck can i change it without the ability to uses the cnc machines in the first place wtf man
09:53 PM W1N9Zr0: STEP files are already the common 3D part format, most CAD/CAM software can work with them. go do some research about the STEP format
09:53 PM droid3: its like you cannt build something out of nothing you need at least something even shitty employees
09:53 PM W1N9Zr0: if you want a CNC machine to test on, you can run linuxcnc in simulator mode http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/getting-started/running-linuxcnc.html#_simulator_configurations
09:54 PM droid3: fuck step formats can you answer my question on why a blender 3d cad model is not the same if you did the same exact model in say solidworks , or revit ????
09:54 PM W1N9Zr0: free gcode simulator: https://ncviewer.com/ just google "gcode simulator" for others
09:54 PM W1N9Zr0: blender is not CAM
09:54 PM Tom_L: this isn't a blender support channel either
09:54 PM droid3: thats my main question your just translating that question over to a word called STEP
09:54 PM Tom_L: maybe you should ask them
09:55 PM droid3: fuck simulation its not the real thing and could drastically be different then real life machines
09:55 PM W1N9Zr0: if you want to make a universal format and it doesn't work on a simulator, it's not universal
09:55 PM W1N9Zr0: start with the simulator
09:55 PM droid3: "blender is not CAM" no shit its CAD
09:56 PM droid3: I am getting at it should be one CAD program that is useable to do any 3d model for any type of machine
09:56 PM droid3: why the need for many types its the CAM /gcode thats the non-portable side
09:56 PM Tom_L: it's called competetive edge
09:57 PM Tom_L: most have their own proprietary formats too
09:57 PM Tom_L: but also are able to port their data using standardized formats
09:58 PM droid3: so i can see many slicer programs / CAM programs /gcode dialects for different machines but i dont understand why you need many 3d modeling /CAD programs other then the fact some software has different default parts to build from focused more for a specific application
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09:59 PM droid3: "most have their own proprietary formats too .... but also are able to port their data using standardized formats "
09:59 PM droid3: sounds like the stupiest fucking thing in the world
09:59 PM droid3: so you want to restrict the ability of it being portable or not ???
10:00 PM Tom_L: absolutely
10:00 PM Tom_L: it's a competetive market
10:00 PM Tom_L: deal with it
10:00 PM droid3: well i dont fuck the competetive market i am all about everybody living a great live not the companies living a great life
10:01 PM droid3: competetive market for whom ??? and for what fucking reason
10:01 PM droid3: when we could just have world peace.
10:01 PM Tom_L: i'm done feeding the troll
10:01 PM droid3: Tom_L i like to deal with you
10:01 PM droid3: good bye shit face