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[09:33:53] <jepler> this linux mint security debacle is sad.
http://lwn.net/Articles/676613/
[09:34:04] <jepler> I don't know that we'd fare any better against a motivated attacker.
[09:37:14] <seb_kuzminsky> i bet not
[09:37:36] <seb_kuzminsky> security is a fulltime job, across the whole org, and we dont do it
[09:37:51] <JT-Shop> seb_kuzminsky: did you get a chance to look at my patch?
[09:38:12] <seb_kuzminsky> the one you posted on emc-developers, right
[09:38:18] <JT-Shop> yes
[09:38:35] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: fwiw jt's patch makes linuxcnc better follow debian packaging standards and it looks like the restart method works on all our platforms (though I have only tested it by manually sudo'ing, not by testing a resulting package)
[09:38:40] <jepler> so I give it a positive review
[09:38:43] <seb_kuzminsky> i saw it, it looks good, and you and jeff tested it on all the .7 distros, right?
[09:38:53] <seb_kuzminsky> grr, *2*.7
[09:39:02] <seb_kuzminsky> my "2" button is failing
[09:39:04] <JT-Shop> I tested on 10.04 and LinuxMint
[09:39:09] <JT-Shop> with 2.7
[09:39:29] <JT-Shop> this is very good
http://gnipsel.com/recipes/snacks/pumpkin-treat.html
[09:40:30] <cradek> that looks really good, but the fruit should be soaked in rum, not water
[09:40:40] <cradek> you need to do these things right
[09:40:56] <seb_kuzminsky> 2.7 thinks it runs on wheezy & jessie, and ubuntu 10.04 and 12.04
[09:41:29] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: my "testing" was to sudo [that command] interactively on wheezy & jessie
[09:41:50] <seb_kuzminsky> it's unfortunate that we don't test package installs
[09:41:58] <jepler> yeah that would not be the easiest thing to do
[09:42:13] <jepler> and to really test it, you need a fresh system with one of those devices matched by the udev rules
[09:42:18] <seb_kuzminsky> but oh well, y'alls manual testing seems really thorough
[09:42:21] <JT-Shop> it's PCW's snack kicked up a bit
[09:42:59] <cradek> and the cocaine-fueled-mid-century-church-lady-cookbook look of your page is cool
[09:43:12] <JT-Shop> I wonder how the fruit would be soaked in Remy Martin
[09:43:15] <JT-Shop> thanks
[09:43:28] <seb_kuzminsky> haha
[09:44:08] <seb_kuzminsky> is a udev restart needed, or is a reload enough?
[09:44:15] <cradek> (I expected "Recipes by JT" to take me to the recipe table of contents)
[09:44:21] <cradek> this is sooo OT, sorry
[09:44:28] <jepler> hmph. I was trying to figure out when kernel 4.4 would be likely to enter debian testing, but when I follow the RC-bug link from
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/linux I get 500 Internal Server Errors from bugs.debian.org
[09:44:40] <seb_kuzminsky> and would udev be better if we soaked it in rum first?
[09:44:45] <cradek> surely
[09:45:05] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: they're targetting 4.10
[09:45:17] <seb_kuzminsky> for debian 9's kernel
[09:45:31] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: I tried to research that too. There may be a way to invoke udevadm to reapply device permissions as though devices were plugged in anew, but one report I saw said it booted the user from their X session
[09:45:52] <seb_kuzminsky> unix is getting weirder and weirder
[09:45:57] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: based on guesses about kernel and debian schedule, you mean?
[09:46:08] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah
[09:47:51] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: did your 4.4 -rt debs make it into a public repo anywhere?
[09:52:04] <seb_kuzminsky> my cheesy repo: deb
http://highlab.com/~seb/linuxcnc jessie main
[09:52:04] * JT-Shop makes a mental note to fix the misleading link
[10:15:40] <jepler> I've got your horrifying 60s recipe right here:
http://www.thisiscolossal.com/2016/02/knit-fruits-and-veggies-by-mapleapple-look-good-enough-to-eat/
[13:33:54] <skunkworks_> zlog
[19:40:45] <skunkworks> toms problem reminds me of a mouse wheel that is flakey
[19:52:19] <skunkworks> . ./scripts/rip-environment
[19:52:21] <skunkworks> heh
[19:54:30] <skunkworks> mozmck:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mach1mach2cnc/conversations/messages/150294
[19:54:32] <skunkworks> :)
[20:03:06] <skunkworks> why do I try :)
[20:03:08] <skunkworks> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mach1mach2cnc/conversations/messages/150288
[20:08:54] <PCW> You can kind of ignore what SB says without great loss
[20:09:32] <skunkworks> :0
[20:09:52] <skunkworks> PCW: how is it going?
[20:11:28] <jepler> yeah I am better off for any mach news I don't hear
[20:12:52] <skunkworks> I got back to the matsuura project and the 7i80 loaded perfectly.. It really is amazing..
[20:13:17] <skunkworks> (finding all the smart serial daughter boards..)
[20:13:47] <skunkworks> jepler: sorry - I really can't help myself..
[20:16:29] <skunkworks> (and drinking some home made wine doesn't help.,..)
[20:17:31] <PCW> finally catching up a b it
[20:17:53] <skunkworks> awesome - I think 2016 is going to be a great year for you.
[20:18:07] <PCW> I think you have a hand soldered 7I80
[20:18:23] <skunkworks> PCW: it works great :)
[20:18:33] <skunkworks> it was out of the grab bag at stuarts
[20:47:26] <skunkworks> if that is hand soldering.... wow