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[00:34:03] <cmorley> hmm some real bugs still there, possibly in 2.6. Some how I didn't get the reports and didn't check SF. Will work on them this coming weekend.
[00:40:00] <seb_kuzminsky> ok cool
[00:40:48] <seb_kuzminsky> do you think we need to hold up the ~pre1 release, or can the bugfixes go in ~pre2, two weeks or so after ~pre1?
[00:41:23] <seb_kuzminsky> thanks for taking care of #303
[00:45:33] <linuxcnc-build> build #147 of 4017.deb-wheezy-armhf is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/4017.deb-wheezy-armhf/builds/147 blamelist: Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>
[09:30:04] <seb_kuzminsky> skunkworks: i can reproduce your problem on trusty
[09:30:05] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.6 35dc8ef 06linuxcnc 10debian/configure 10debian/control.in deb: add support for building on Ubuntu Trusty Tahr 14.04 * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=35dc8ef
[09:33:07] <skunkworks> seb_kuzminsky, trusty?
[09:33:39] <skunkworks> oh 14.04 is trusty..
[09:34:12] <skunkworks> seb_kuzminsky, did you see the little bit of troubleshooting dgar helped me with last night/
[09:35:33] <skunkworks> ^ heh - that was also a question
[09:35:49] <pcw_home> Are you running into the same thing I did with 14.04? (tk/tcl dependency issues)
[09:37:21] <skunkworks> pcw_home, well - so far the onlything I have noticed that doesn't work is the 'show hal configuration'
[09:37:34] <skunkworks> what issues did you have?
[09:38:10] <pcw_home> I could not get it to compile because of tcl/tk version problems
[09:38:37] <pcw_home> but this was ubc-7i80 so master may be different
[09:38:42] <skunkworks> huh
[09:39:05] <skunkworks> maybe the 'sort of' fixed it by the time I tried it a week ago
[09:39:07] <skunkworks> oh - maybe
[09:39:37] <pcw_home> ubc 7i80 is a a couple months old
[09:46:05] <seb_kuzminsky> pcw_home: i just pushed a commit to 2.6 that makes it build for me on trusty (14.04)
[09:49:42] <pcw_home> Thanks!
[09:50:21] <pcw_home> unity on trusty is a bit less wearing on the mouse arm
[09:51:07] <seb_kuzminsky> it still doesnt address the issue skunkworks reported, the tclStubsPtr thing
[09:51:48] <skunkworks> halscope works - isn't that tcl?
[09:52:24] <seb_kuzminsky> no, it's C
[09:52:33] <seb_kuzminsky> it was written my john kasunich, after all ;-)
[09:52:48] <skunkworks> oh
[09:52:59] <JT-Shop> seb_kuzminsky, is the 14.04 deb for real time or just for sim?
[09:53:05] <seb_kuzminsky> no debs yet
[09:53:16] <seb_kuzminsky> i only tested building it myself, for sim
[09:54:09] <pcw_home> skunkworks are you using sim or RT?
[09:54:13] <seb_kuzminsky> trusty ships with linux 3.13, our rtai guy memleak says he thinks he can support rtai on 3.10, so maybe some day we could ship linuxcnc on rtai on linux 3.10 on trusty,
[09:54:25] <skunkworks> sim at the moment (just on my laptop)
[09:54:35] <pcw_home> 3.12 3.12 3.12 !
[09:54:36] <JT-Shop> ok thanks'
[09:54:49] <seb_kuzminsky> but not this day...
[09:55:21] <seb_kuzminsky> what does 3.12 have over 3.10? anythign good?
[09:56:06] <skunkworks> better hardware support it seems...
[09:56:18] <pcw_home> support for the intel HD graphics on baytrail (celeron J1800,J1900,J2900)
[09:58:49] <skunkworks> 12.04 - glxgears on the baytrial runs 1fps
[09:59:00] <skunkworks> 10.04 runs much better.
[09:59:35] <pcw_home> Yeah and with 3.12 full screen 1080 flash is no issue
[10:01:00] <seb_kuzminsky> cool
[10:01:18] <seb_kuzminsky> bbl, work
[10:01:41] <pcw_home> in general the Baytrail MBs seem better that the older Atom MBs
[10:01:43] <pcw_home> in every way except they require late kernel/video drivers
[10:47:06] <linuxcnc-build> build #148 of 4017.deb-wheezy-armhf is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/4017.deb-wheezy-armhf/builds/148 blamelist: Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>
[14:39:13] <skunkworks_> seb_kuzminsky: does this make sense? (search for tclStubsPtr)
http://core.tcl.tk/tcl/tktview/8419b6d9ae?plaintext
[15:37:01] <cradek> cmorley: are you around? I am working on a 2.5.4 release and wonder if you could tell me about the two open pncconf bugs
[15:41:04] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: cmorley said he'd look at pncconf bugs this weekend
[15:43:01] <cradek> oh great
[15:43:07] <cradek> thanks, I didn't see that
[17:25:15] <memleak> i will support 3.12 kernels no doubt but i just recently got 3.10 working, however the latency numbers are a bit worse than 3.4
[17:26:04] <memleak> pcw_home, you could say that about any GPU. the newer ones are always better :P
[17:26:37] <memleak> i've been buying high end external cards for quite some time now and i don't ever recall saying "wow this new card sucks.." xD