#garfield Logs
Mar 22 2025
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11:58 AM VanUnamed: old plasma https://ibb.co/xSm5xrZy new plasma https://ibb.co/mrj7pTDz - circular-ish hole https://ibb.co/67Tw79Lv
12:13 PM Tom_L: sheriff, locals, feds and Ice
12:13 PM Tom_L: i'm all for rounding up ones that are using my tax dollars to live off of
12:13 PM Tom_L: work visa, green card etc i'm fine with
12:14 PM rue_mohr: I wonder what their error rate without doing trials is
12:14 PM Tom_L: nato isn't doing their part either... depending on our protection but wanting it for free
12:15 PM Tom_L: they have intelligence knowing who are criminals
12:15 PM Tom_L: it's not hard to find out if someone has a record
12:15 PM Tom_L: the error rate would be no worse than a regular citizen going to trial
12:16 PM Tom_L: plenty of those go off wrong
12:16 PM rue_mohr: hmm
12:17 PM Tom_L: we rely on our piers to do the right thing
12:17 PM rue_mohr: if they dont?
12:17 PM Tom_L: and fwiw, we are not a democracy... we are a republic
12:17 PM rue_mohr: hmm
12:17 PM Tom_L: seems to be overlooked all the time
12:19 PM Tom_L: read the Pledge of Allegiance for the US
12:20 PM rue_mohr: Hmmm "democracy because it has a system of government in which power is ultimately derived from the people, who vote for their leaders and policies."
12:20 PM rue_mohr: "republic because it has a government in which elected representatives make decisions on behalf of the people, and it operates under a constitution that protects individual rights."
12:20 PM rue_mohr: its those individual rights that I think I see slipping.
12:21 PM Tom_L: no form of govt is perfect... we after all are humans
12:21 PM Tom_L: even you..... for now
12:21 PM rue_mohr: oh hell no
12:21 PM Tom_L: like it or not it's the dilemma you are in
12:22 PM rue_mohr: I think our govt is operating better than yours right now tho
12:22 PM rue_mohr: I'm really curious how our new PM will navigate the waters ahead
12:23 PM * Tom_L goes to unload groceries
12:23 PM rue_mohr: they often like to stirr up 'ecenomic stimulus packages'
12:23 PM rue_mohr: a bunch of money goes into silly things for a while
12:23 PM Tom_L: fear is a great motivator
12:24 PM rue_mohr: yea...
12:25 PM Tom_L: so is money
01:33 PM rue_mohr: wonder why I have never been money motivated
01:34 PM rue_mohr: speaking of working on stupid sprayers :/
01:34 PM rue_mohr: its sunny and I'd like to do some aluminum casting
01:36 PM rue_mohr: cmon rue get up
02:26 PM * Tom_L threatens rue_mohr as a motivator
03:38 PM rue_shop3: got two things molded up, waiting for aluminum to melt
03:38 PM rue_shop3: so
03:39 PM rue_shop3: last time I powered up the line following robot was 2014
03:39 PM rue_shop3: I took it off the shelf, connected the battery (internal li-ion) and it came right up
03:39 PM rue_shop3: I decided to top up the batteries and it seems they were still basically full
03:39 PM rue_shop3: *-|
03:39 PM rue_shop3: 8|
03:42 PM polprog: rue, there are some nice small ch32v307 boards
03:42 PM polprog: https://github.com/polprog/ch32_playground/blob/main/ch32v307rc-mini.jpg
03:42 PM polprog: looks like a nice module to base boards on
03:45 PM polprog: if i make rev 3 of the dac board, it will likely have this stuffed somewhere in addition to the arduino header so that i dont have to use the more expensive ethernet scdz board
04:13 PM rue_mohr: hmm not seen thatone
06:14 PM rue_shop3: mowed down weeds in lawm
06:53 PM Tom_L: get your taters planted?
07:09 PM rue_shop3: some of them, might be too early yet
07:09 PM rue_shop3: and I'm not sure if the ones from the grocery store have been neutralized
07:09 PM rue_shop3: I have them in the sun outside to see if they go green
07:59 PM Tom_L: do you cube them to get more or plant the whole thing?
08:10 PM aandrew: got some RC stuff for the boy from ali today. they claim it should be here in 1-2 weeks, we'll see
08:15 PM rue_mohr: I tried to cut a bunch up
08:15 PM rue_mohr: aandrew, heh
08:16 PM rue_mohr: yea, tell me if you get hit with a tariff or if that was all just a lie
08:17 PM rue_mohr: attiny13 are running about $1ea
08:17 PM rue_mohr: from ali
08:19 PM rue_mohr: $1-$2 from lcsc
08:19 PM aandrew: for sure. I didn't get hit before, although I did notice some price increases but the same free shipping if over $10 is there
08:19 PM rue_mohr: I think it comes in at the border crossing doesn't it?
08:19 PM aandrew: I figure the tariff wouldn't really apply, but the de minimis or whatever it's called that allows them to ship without duties would apply
08:20 PM aandrew: we'll find out :-)
08:20 PM rue_mohr: they phone you up and say your package is being held ransom
08:21 PM rue_mohr: attiny85 for $2-$3
08:21 PM rue_mohr: this is all usd too
08:21 PM rue_mohr: so *1.5
08:22 PM rue_mohr: on ali the tiny85 goes for $5.50ea
08:25 PM rue_mohr: I do wish the ch32 were easier to use
08:29 PM aandrew: I've not really used it... what makes it difficult to use?
08:31 PM rue_mohr: have you used stm32?
08:31 PM aandrew: stm32 is my processor family of choice
08:32 PM rue_mohr: you know how half your program is initializing the system and turning on clock sources?
08:32 PM rue_mohr: opposed to an avr, where you just send the character to the uart and your good (+-)
08:33 PM rue_mohr: its like BASIC vs C
08:33 PM aandrew: hahaha, for simple programs yes
08:33 PM rue_mohr: 10 print "hello world"
08:34 PM rue_mohr: #include <stdio.h> int main(void) { printf("Hello world\n"); return 0; }
08:35 PM rue_mohr: for a long time I used BASIC for little utility programs
08:35 PM rue_mohr: I suppose linux had me move to C
08:35 PM rue_mohr: didn't seek out BASIC interpreters
08:36 PM aandrew: I was always dropping to asm and hunting down C compilers even for c64
08:36 PM aandrew: I disliked basic and gw-basic on pc (and later betterbasic)
08:38 PM rue_mohr: drat, the ch32V003 nqfp is 1 io short to run a 14 segment display
08:38 PM rue_mohr: oh wait
08:39 PM rue_mohr: drat, the dp isn't counted in the 14
08:40 PM aandrew: these little "pwm to coil converter" boards look like just pic12s. could build something on my own easy enough but these are tiny and cheap
08:40 PM rue_mohr: "to coil"?
08:40 PM rue_mohr: like relay?
08:41 PM rue_mohr: over 50% = on?
08:41 PM rue_mohr: maybe some schmitt?
08:42 PM rue_mohr: ugh, I'm at 0% energy
08:42 PM rue_mohr: tried to sleep, too tired to even do that
08:42 PM aandrew: no, I have these tiny tiny actuators, meant for elevator/rudder controls on RC planes
08:42 PM aandrew: basically just a coil, magnet and some plastic
08:43 PM rue_mohr: oh voicecoil
08:43 PM aandrew: but of course everything RC is PWM, so these just convert the PWM into a bipolar current across the coil
08:43 PM aandrew: yes
08:43 PM rue_mohr: is there feedback?
08:43 PM rue_mohr: got an image?
08:44 PM aandrew: one moment
08:44 PM aandrew: no feedback at all
08:44 PM rue_mohr: huh
08:44 PM rue_mohr: you know about my hobbypwm to stepper code, right?
08:45 PM rue_mohr: huh, lots of planes over my head today
08:45 PM aandrew: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256801483309876.html
08:45 PM aandrew: stuff like that
08:45 PM aandrew: nope I don't know most of the stuff you do, you're very prolific
08:46 PM rue_mohr: would I get bood off stage if I used 8 segments of a 14 segment display to make a serial digit?
08:47 PM aandrew: heh. I think 90% of the stuff you do flies over the head of the people seeing it
08:47 PM rue_mohr: yea,
08:47 PM * rue_mohr is sad
08:47 PM aandrew: timer capture to "decode" pwm is pretty trivial, but I bet you've got something using an 555 and some magic
08:48 PM rue_mohr: of you didn tsee it?
08:48 PM aandrew: I don't think I did
08:48 PM aandrew: I have a poor memory though
08:48 PM rue_mohr: https://x.com/RueNahcMohr/status/1665119862497366017
08:49 PM rue_mohr: I was doing a "break down barriers" thing for a big
08:49 PM rue_mohr: I was doing a "break down barriers" thing for a bit
08:49 PM rue_mohr: I have an analog input version too
08:50 PM rue_mohr: oh I see
08:50 PM rue_mohr: you use those little things with bipolar pwm
08:50 PM Tom_L: why would an industrial servo & amp set to position mode never settle on the position but wander around it
08:50 PM rue_mohr: cute
08:50 PM rue_mohr: loose control loop
08:50 PM aandrew: ah yes I did see that
08:51 PM rue_mohr: aandrew, yea, its *just* a stepper motor
08:51 PM aandrew: yeah these voice coils would have the loop closed around the IMU
08:51 PM rue_mohr: the code does things to control acceleration and velocity, but keeps track of the position properly if it cant properly keep up
08:52 PM aandrew: where's the feedback?
08:52 PM rue_mohr: aandrew, the bipolar pwm will just about set the position of those tiny things
08:52 PM rue_mohr: aandrew, there IS NONE
08:52 PM rue_mohr: it just stepps carefully so not to lose any
08:52 PM rue_mohr: 3dprinter-esq
08:53 PM rue_mohr: I want to make one of those actuators not
08:53 PM aandrew: oh I see
08:53 PM rue_mohr: I want to make one of those actuators now
08:53 PM aandrew: you count steps but don't worry about the motor skipping
08:53 PM rue_mohr: for $20 I could make lots of them
08:53 PM rue_mohr: aandrew, no, I do count steps, and I limit the velocity and accel to the motors limits
08:54 PM rue_mohr: my code that limits the vel and accel is crazy
08:54 PM rue_mohr: I was having a good night apparently
08:54 PM rue_mohr: its not the first time I'v used a SAR ADC as a timer ;]
08:55 PM rue_mohr: iirc its 13 cycles for that chip
08:56 PM aandrew: nice, it looks like it works quite well
08:56 PM rue_mohr: yea
08:56 PM rue_mohr: analog version too
08:57 PM rue_mohr: well, I'm not good with preformed coils yet, that actuator could be a fun project
08:57 PM rue_mohr: $20ea is crazy
08:57 PM aandrew: oh yeah I didn't pay anything like that
08:58 PM rue_mohr: you know
08:58 PM aandrew: oh
08:59 PM aandrew: I did pay more than I thought
08:59 PM rue_mohr: that method could work really good for my laser meter
08:59 PM aandrew: $12 for qty3 0.25g, $13 for qty2 0.22g and $15 for qty3 0.44g
08:59 PM rue_mohr: I think if its kept over a few kHz it wouldn't wiggle
08:59 PM aandrew: so between 4-6 ea, that's still more than I thought
09:00 PM aandrew: gluing a mirror to a speaker works well too, depending on your use case
09:00 PM rue_mohr: yea that didn't play out for me
09:03 PM rue_mohr: :( the social medias are all just likes
09:03 PM rue_mohr: no comments
09:06 PM rue_mohr: my attempt to flood the social medias (not twitter) with content is failing
09:08 PM rue_mohr: I should try out that oxygen concentrator and see if it helps
09:09 PM rue_mohr: http://media.ruemohr.org/images/p1340105.jpg
09:09 PM rue_mohr: http://media.ruemohr.org/images/p1340106.jpg
09:09 PM rue_mohr: http://media.ruemohr.org/images/p1340108.jpg
09:09 PM rue_mohr: http://media.ruemohr.org/images/p1340120.jpg
09:09 PM rue_mohr: http://media.ruemohr.org/images/p1340121.jpg
09:09 PM rue_mohr: I did some fancy casting today
09:09 PM rue_mohr: the inner corner of that 7 is *really* tricky, I did it with an insert
09:10 PM rue_mohr: the other thing is for mounting a monitor to pipe
09:15 PM rue_mohr: mastadon runs a follower per 10 posts
09:15 PM rue_mohr: bluesky runs a follwer per 2 posts
09:15 PM rue_mohr: not counting followers, but its a point of curiosity
09:19 PM rue_mohr: I could have picked an easier robot for my project
09:19 PM rue_mohr: but I want something about this .....
09:19 PM rue_mohr: hi
09:19 PM rue_mohr: hi rue
09:19 PM rue_mohr: wow, company!
09:20 PM rue_mohr: yea, you need some dont ya?
09:20 PM rue_mohr: it would help
09:20 PM rue_mohr: you were gonna say?
09:20 PM rue_mohr: yea, smoking progress is the only robot about the right size for the rov project
09:20 PM rue_mohr: yea, mowerbots a bit large
09:21 PM rue_mohr: what else do we have?
09:21 PM rue_mohr: Correy took his bot,but he left that thing
09:21 PM rue_mohr: the... 6 wheeled thing?
09:21 PM Tom_L: get the tubes sliced?
09:21 PM rue_mohr: wait, you have that old radio shack robot of his too
09:21 PM rue_mohr: tom yea, did that yesterday
09:21 PM rue_mohr: posted some pics
09:22 PM rue_mohr: you didn't see?
09:22 PM Tom_L: maybe maybe not
09:22 PM rue_mohr: we put them on the media server so you could have resolution
09:22 PM Tom_L: saw the jigs but i've seen those
09:23 PM rue_mohr: http://media.ruemohr.org/images/p1340086.jpg
09:23 PM rue_mohr: http://media.ruemohr.org/images/p1340087.jpg
09:24 PM Tom_L: yeah i saw those
09:24 PM rue_mohr: those are the slots
09:24 PM rue_mohr: did up 4 tubes
09:43 PM aandrew: what did you make? I see the number 7
09:44 PM rue_shop3: yea
09:44 PM rue_shop3: I offered to make some house numbers for a guy at work
09:44 PM rue_shop3: the 7 was the last digit
09:44 PM aandrew: still makes me laugh when I think of how you said "aluminum is basically wood" for shaping etc
09:44 PM rue_shop3: it was an interseting casting challance
09:44 PM rue_shop3: it was an interseting casting challange
09:44 PM aandrew: ah I see
09:44 PM rue_shop3: :]
09:44 PM rue_shop3: its true tho
09:46 PM aandrew: what made the inside corner of the 7 tricky? I see it's narrow, and it looks like you're feeding it in from both "ends" which surprised me, I thought you'd have a vent in that inner corner, or was one of those the vent and that's just the metal pushing up into it
09:46 PM rue_shop3: you cant just pack and pull from a corner like that
09:46 PM rue_shop3: it falls out
09:47 PM rue_shop3: I always "cast-thru"
09:47 PM rue_shop3: helps purge stuff
09:47 PM aandrew: interesting -- also interesting (to me) is how much of a "well" you have on each side... what's the purpose of that?
09:47 PM rue_shop3: and gives a "last chance" if a runner fails
09:47 PM aandrew: ie why is the final item not hte lowest thing in the sand
09:48 PM aandrew: I need to learn the terms to be able to talk abou tit
09:48 PM rue_shop3: the idea is that you tap the middle of the column, so light and heavy things dont get into the mold
09:48 PM aandrew: ahhhhh
09:48 PM rue_shop3: whent he molten medal goes it, the sand fuses about 1cm from the surfaces
09:48 PM rue_shop3: pretty fast too
09:49 PM aandrew: it's meant to give the shit that is in the melt that you DON"T want somewhere to go
09:49 PM rue_shop3: the other thing that can be done is leaving aluminum foil protectors in the casting
09:50 PM rue_shop3: thats not come up too often yet
09:51 PM aandrew: as for the other thing -- you just cast alu around a big piece of cast iron pipe?
09:51 PM rue_shop3: a 3/4" coupler
09:52 PM aandrew: why?
09:52 PM rue_shop3: there is a lip so it locks in
09:52 PM rue_shop3: the idea is a monitor mount
09:52 PM aandrew: (as in why not just cast a big alu plate and use a 3/4" flange and bolt it on?
09:52 PM rue_shop3: the flanges are $$$
09:52 PM aandrew: aha
09:52 PM aandrew: that's a great reason
09:53 PM rue_shop3: and I dont have a 3/4" NPT
09:53 PM rue_shop3: tap
09:53 PM rue_shop3: Tom_L, are you finding the higher rez images helping?
09:53 PM aandrew: how easy/hard is it to ensure that it mounts "square"?
09:54 PM rue_shop3: well, its all supposed to be adjustable anyhow
09:54 PM rue_shop3: I didn't design the rest of it, but my buddy keeps running alum jobs off on the cnc to try to make them
09:54 PM aandrew: my "OCD" (I don't have it, but it sure feels like it sometimes) would drive me mental making sure that it was perfectly square
09:55 PM rue_shop3: :], and its out, I didn't even hit the middle that well
09:55 PM aandrew: I guess the nice thing is that you can actually run it through the mill to make the base square with the coupling no matter how far off it is
09:56 PM rue_shop3: I could, but, its all supposed to be on an adjustable arm anyhow
09:56 PM aandrew: do you recover most of the milled material and melt it back down or is it contaminated and not worth the trouble most of the time?
09:56 PM rue_shop3: no
09:57 PM rue_shop3: high surface area material just all turns into oxides
09:57 PM rue_shop3: not worth it
09:57 PM aandrew: gotcha
09:57 PM rue_shop3: AND I have SO MUCH aluminum its crazy
09:57 PM rue_shop3: I dont even collect it anymore
09:57 PM rue_shop3: I have like 4-5 milk crates of muffins in the back storage shed
09:58 PM aandrew: where does most of your alu come from? hdd casings or do you have a larger source of it
09:58 PM rue_shop3: and I still have a bunch of a solar-rail offcuts to melt down
09:58 PM rue_shop3: hd's are a lot
09:58 PM rue_shop3: solar rail, medical equipment
09:58 PM rue_shop3: its just everywhere
09:59 PM aandrew: do you make any effort to separate by "rough" pedigree -- extrusion vs milled?
09:59 PM rue_shop3: for now, SSD's mean an end to the age
09:59 PM aandrew: or do you basically just alu is alu is alu
10:00 PM rue_shop3: no, I'v not had any issues with aluminum quality, tho it was mentioned on... social media to go for cast alum, as apparently extruded isn't as good fo casting
10:00 PM Tom_L: take longer to load but show better detail
10:00 PM rue_shop3: seems I'm missing a robot platform...
10:00 PM aandrew: I've heard the same but I am betting the types of things you'd likely be doing aren't that critical of metallurgy
10:01 PM aandrew: it's so nice to be able to hit zoom and *see*
10:01 PM rue_shop3: correct, I'm watching my castings carefully for that thing where the metal just disintegrates, so signs of it so far
10:01 PM rue_shop3: I dont know what they do/put into those aluminum things that just disintegrate after 20-30 yrs
10:01 PM rue_shop3: have you ever seen that?
10:01 PM aandrew: https://ibb.co/mrnznmtv
10:02 PM aandrew: I mean just LOOK at that... I can see the details!
10:02 PM Tom_L: if it were something like watching a blinking led i wouldn't need the res
10:02 PM rue_shop3: ... not loading....
10:02 PM aandrew: I have never seen metal just disintegrate but I don't have anything particuarly old either
10:02 PM rue_shop3: its some aluminum stuff
10:02 PM rue_shop3: the head on my bandsaw was like that
10:03 PM rue_shop3: the metal crumbles
10:03 PM rue_shop3: you can see little cracks in it
10:03 PM aandrew: hm interesting
10:03 PM rue_shop3: that image wouldn't load
10:03 PM aandrew: weird
10:03 PM Tom_L: loaded here
10:03 PM Tom_L: what's the 7 for?
10:04 PM rue_shop3: I offered a co-worker some house number digits
10:04 PM rue_shop3: the 7 was the last part
10:04 PM aandrew: you have to click the "load full resolution 9.8mb" for me
10:04 PM rue_shop3: the 4 was also really hard
10:04 PM rue_shop3: I did, didn't load
10:04 PM aandrew: hm weird
10:04 PM Tom_L: i just clicked
10:04 PM Tom_L: and poof it was there
10:04 PM aandrew: must be an imgbb thing
10:04 PM rue_shop3: maybe they dont like canada
10:05 PM Tom_L: tarifs
10:05 PM rue_shop3: heh
10:05 PM aandrew: lol
10:05 PM aandrew: I bought some stuff at whole foods today
10:05 PM Tom_L: $$
10:05 PM Tom_L: but good
10:05 PM aandrew: my amazon prime qr code wasn't working and he was asking if I had the CC for it, I said I do, but it's a canadian cc
10:06 PM aandrew: the guy behind me said "I'm really sorry about what's going on with the whole us/canada thing, I have no idea why they're messing with you but it can't be over the hockey game" :-)
10:06 PM Tom_L: we found you gotta open the app before entering the store here
10:06 PM Tom_L: horrible service in store
10:06 PM rue_shop3: apparently thats a thing
10:06 PM rue_shop3: the sorry
10:07 PM rue_shop3: there was a story about some tourists getting a random 'sorry about this'
10:07 PM Tom_L: i'd imagine the hockey thing stung a bit
10:07 PM rue_shop3: all the us games are getting it
10:07 PM rue_shop3: probably getting old now
10:07 PM rue_shop3: I'd like the us teams to know its nothing personal
10:07 PM aandrew: nah
10:08 PM Tom_L: they didn't take it personal did they???
10:08 PM rue_shop3: I'd like to see them cheered for comming out to play
10:08 PM rue_shop3: I dont know
10:08 PM aandrew: the canada/us game is always a pretty fun thing, I always said that the relationship with americans feels very fraternal. we're the little brother so there's a lot of back and forth teasing. all in good nature
10:08 PM rue_shop3: maybe they udnerstand
10:08 PM aandrew: you guys win some, we win some and there's a lot of ribbing inbetween but it's from a friendly space
10:08 PM rue_shop3: somehow I'd bet the canadians are playing a big rougher tho
10:08 PM Tom_L: i never watch it
10:09 PM Tom_L: i used to watch a local team here
10:09 PM rue_shop3: me either, I hate sports
10:09 PM aandrew: I don't often either, just catch the highlights but I neve rliked NHL games
10:09 PM aandrew: they were always too ... commercial
10:09 PM rue_shop3: heh
10:09 PM aandrew: I love the kid's games and the uni games
10:09 PM rue_shop3: I miss watching movies on tv
10:09 PM aandrew: I look at it this way: you pay $$$ to see an NHL game and it's just a bunch of posturing and they even pause the fucking game to run commercials... you spend so much and you're disappointed because you EXPECT pro level play
10:09 PM rue_shop3: back when during commercial breaks you ran to the bathroom and worked fast
10:10 PM aandrew: however, when you go to a kid's game or a college/uni level game it's free/cheap and if there's a stellar play or a real upset you come away with a "HOLY SHIT THAT WAS AWESOME"
10:10 PM aandrew: rather htan "... that's it?"
10:11 PM aandrew: the canada/us game FEELS a lot more like the college/uni stuff than pro hockey which is why I like it
10:11 PM aandrew: not that I am any kind of real sports fan at all
10:11 PM rue_shop3: the volume of my projects is depressing me
10:12 PM rue_shop3: good point for finishing them
10:12 PM aandrew: I have stopped trying to track it because that depresses me (about my own)
10:12 PM rue_shop3: if only that was eaiser to do
10:12 PM aandrew: so I focus on what's in front of me and try to make good notes about something that pops into my head
10:12 PM aandrew: but honestly I'm never bored enough to have to go digging around for something to do
10:12 PM rue_shop3: I have a voice come up for each project "you should work on me next!"
10:12 PM aandrew: there's something kind of WEIRD about "20% off dentistry" ads from my dentist down here
10:13 PM rue_shop3: in my happy space, I have one project infront of me, and elbow room as far as the eye can see
10:13 PM rue_shop3: "but you only finished 80% of the job!?"
10:13 PM aandrew: heh
10:13 PM aandrew: I called out a doctor on twitter the other day
10:14 PM rue_shop3: oh?
10:14 PM aandrew: "carney is an illigitimate prime minister, nobody voted for him!" -- calls an election
10:14 PM aandrew: "see? carney's too scared to face poilievere!"
10:14 PM aandrew: I'm like fuck off man
10:14 PM rue_shop3: huh
10:14 PM aandrew: you ought to be embarrassed
10:14 PM aandrew: you can not like the liberals but you're a fucking DOCTOR and not just any one, he's like head of cardiology at some big toronto hospital
10:15 PM rue_shop3: I'm really curious and kinda nervous about how this will go
10:15 PM aandrew: no response
10:15 PM aandrew: and then in a moment of frustration and total lack of focus, I mouthed off to a dude who's like the top 2% of scientists in the world
10:15 PM rue_shop3: this will be a hard year for the whole worl
10:15 PM rue_shop3: d
10:15 PM aandrew: I apologized for that one
10:15 PM aandrew: thanked him for calling me out actually, I don't even know why I did it
10:16 PM rue_shop3: so, lots of things stacked up on the deck this winter while I couldn't do the stripdowns
10:16 PM rue_shop3: overload and I have no energy
10:17 PM aandrew: I'm no fan of trudeau but I really hope carney gets a majority. dude's top notch in his handling of "the situation"
10:17 PM aandrew: people screaing "you're just stealing all PP's ideas!" "yeah, and?"
10:17 PM aandrew: it's almost like we want some of what PP's saying but without PP
10:18 PM rue_shop3: there is a LOT of social media noise too
10:18 PM aandrew: yep
10:18 PM aandrew: I don't think I'll be able to vote from here. not sure
10:18 PM rue_shop3: and I think too many people take a religion to it
10:18 PM aandrew: I always said one of the biggest problems in american politics is that they treat it like a football game
10:19 PM rue_shop3: you know, its interseting, there have been nothing from electionsCanada
10:19 PM aandrew: there's "my team" and "your team"
10:19 PM aandrew: when really it should be "us" against "those fuckers we elect"
10:19 PM rue_shop3: but, I thought it was a minister vote
10:19 PM aandrew: "minister vote" ?
10:19 PM rue_shop3: I think part of the issue in the usa is the huge class gap
10:20 PM rue_shop3: I dont know if I ever really hear about the top 1% wealthy in canada
10:20 PM rue_shop3: I'm pretty sure the owner of telus is in there
10:20 PM rue_shop3: he has an island on the coast here
10:21 PM rue_shop3: heh, they called me in to try to fix the wireless link
10:21 PM rue_shop3: (the caretaker) it was never mentioned who it was for
10:21 PM aandrew: did you tell them to unplug it and plug it back in?
10:21 PM aandrew: you know... wireless... unplug... ha ha ?
10:21 PM rue_shop3: but I had to end with "you need to get telus to fix this"
10:21 PM rue_shop3: the dishes weren't linking
10:21 PM rue_shop3: mainland to island
10:22 PM rue_shop3: I was laughing internally
10:22 PM aandrew: I don't understood why streamed movies aren't the same for you... you can press pause and do what you want and come back and you don't have to put up with commercials
10:22 PM Tom_L: depends on what it is
10:23 PM rue_shop3: I had netflix, but then they wanted too much money for the "once maybe per month" I would watch something
10:23 PM aandrew: oh yeah netflix is way too expensive
10:23 PM rue_shop3: I closed my account and now they are begging me to reopen it
10:23 PM aandrew: my plex server is awesome
10:23 PM rue_shop3: so I'm guessing lots of people closed out
10:23 PM rue_shop3: I'm watching bittorrent now ;]
10:24 PM aandrew: gonna go, watching a movie with the boy
10:24 PM rue_shop3: talk about work, you have to decide what to watch, AND try to fetch it
10:24 PM rue_shop3: yea I need food
10:24 PM rue_shop3: not waking up
10:24 PM rue_shop3: want to work on a robot, but no energy
10:53 PM rue_mohr: ok if I scrath off outdoor projects right now
10:53 PM rue_mohr: I got some aluminum casting done today, so i'm happy with that
10:54 PM rue_mohr: sprayers
10:54 PM rue_mohr: its a brain-dead thing I can just do
10:54 PM rue_mohr: maybe thats what Sean liked about doing it
10:55 PM rue_mohr: one of his sayings was "The greatest invention was the off switch"
10:55 PM rue_mohr: I liked the bias of that
10:55 PM rue_mohr: his ALS got bad enough that he did an assisted termination
10:56 PM rue_mohr: long long term friend
10:56 PM rue_mohr: we joked about who could make it to 100yrs old when we were young
10:57 PM rue_mohr: I dont think we thought about the reprecussion of saying that