#garfield Logs

Aug 21 2024

09:42 PM rue_shop2: no
09:43 PM rue_shop2: hey seeing as your awake
09:43 PM Tom_L: i didn't do it
09:44 PM rue_shop2: is there an NC command you can think of where the same parameter name occurs more than once in a command?
09:44 PM Tom_L: explain?
09:44 PM rue_shop2: aka G00 X 12 X 34 X 56
09:44 PM Tom_L: no
09:44 PM rue_shop2: not X, but anything else
09:45 PM Tom_L: not that i know of
09:45 PM rue_shop2: hmm
09:45 PM Tom_L: why?
09:45 PM rue_shop2: for the language for that motion controller I need to number the axies
09:45 PM rue_shop2: being up to 65535 of them
09:45 PM Tom_L: lcnc supports up to 9
09:46 PM rue_shop2: so I was hoping for an argument that can be re-used in a command to specify the axis
09:46 PM Tom_L: why would you need more?
09:46 PM rue_shop2: not a cnc machine
09:46 PM rue_shop2: generic machine automation
09:46 PM rue_shop2: with the machine expressed as a large multiaxis clump
09:47 PM rue_shop2: how many cams do you think you had at once in the old CNC?
09:47 PM Tom_L: what do you mean?
09:47 PM Tom_L: cams
09:47 PM rue_shop2: the old machines that used programming cams, were you there?
09:47 PM Tom_L: i ran them
09:47 PM Tom_L: each cross slide had a cam
09:47 PM Tom_L: the horizontal had a rotary cam
09:48 PM rue_shop2: 4?...
09:48 PM rue_shop2: and turret?
09:48 PM Tom_L: maybe 7-8
09:48 PM rue_shop2: ok, so basically, thats like 8 axis
09:48 PM Tom_L: 6 spindle or 8 spindle
09:48 PM Tom_L: each had a cross slide except the exit chute
09:48 PM Tom_L: and a horizontal cam for drills etc
09:49 PM rue_shop2: see what I mean? each cam is an axis on this controller I'm thinking up
09:49 PM rue_shop2: one set of axies could be multiple robot arms
09:52 PM Tom_L: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnEZuvgiYoU
09:54 PM rue_shop2: how much copper should I add to my aluminum :]
09:54 PM Tom_L: kid runs those at work
09:54 PM rue_shop2: :]
09:55 PM rue_shop2: ok, well thats what I'm up to anyhow
09:55 PM Tom_L: for what?
09:55 PM rue_shop2: generic
09:55 PM rue_shop2: I keep needing something I can program motions with
09:55 PM rue_shop2: sure, sometimes just 1 axis
09:56 PM rue_shop2: sometimes 3, sometimes 5
09:56 PM rue_shop2: the thought "if I only had some sort of multiaxis controller" has started to occur too many times
09:56 PM rue_shop2: esp since I wrote all my origional code for my cnc machine
09:56 PM rue_shop2: I can do it
09:57 PM rue_shop2: I'd just do linear interpolation
09:57 PM rue_shop2: so its all easy
10:04 PM Tom_L: https://youtu.be/OK08MrBvhyw?t=100
10:04 PM Tom_L: shows the pallet system
10:04 PM Tom_L: 4 cnc cell with 20 pallets
10:08 PM rue_shop2: cool
10:09 PM Tom_L: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV-ppuIZhKo
10:09 PM Tom_L: shows how the parts get loaded on the pallets better
10:09 PM Tom_L: then they can either park the pallet or send it to a cnc
10:13 PM rue_shop2: seems a bit underloaded, you could fit like 3 of those on there
10:13 PM Tom_L: yeah just depends on the parts etc
11:21 PM aandrew: today was not a great day. nothing explicitly *wrong* just shitty in general.
11:22 PM rue_mohr: aandrew, you still awake?
11:27 PM aandrew: I'm in California, same time zone as you
11:30 PM rue_mohr: yes, but are you still awake
11:30 PM rue_mohr: so, have you worked with rust?
11:31 PM aandrew: ah yes I am still awake
11:31 PM aandrew: I have done very, very little with rust. my new project with work is going to be forcing me to learn it though
11:31 PM aandrew: so far I'm kind of nonplussed. I don't see it sticking around
11:31 PM aandrew: feels very much a fad
11:31 PM rue_mohr: huh
11:32 PM rue_mohr: I'm trying to compile a project
11:32 PM rue_mohr: https://github.com/ch32-rs/wlink
11:32 PM rue_mohr: but 'cargo' on debian is too old
11:32 PM aandrew: I ran into that
11:32 PM aandrew: the solution was to uninstall the rust package(s) from debian and install rust/rustup/etc from the rust site
11:33 PM aandrew: curl --proto '=https' --tlsv1.3 https://sh.rustup.rs -sSf | sh
11:33 PM rue_mohr: ugh
11:33 PM rue_mohr: this is way too much work to flash a god damned led
11:34 PM aandrew: heh
11:34 PM aandrew: I felt similar
11:35 PM aandrew: and I really dislike this idea of "trust us, all the micro-libraries for anything you could possibly want to do are already out there in the cloud, let us install it for you"
11:36 PM rue_mohr: ai is having a field day with it, fabracating dependencies of fake libraries to such frequency that hackers just need to make one and it gets slurped right up
11:36 PM rue_mohr: automatically
11:37 PM aandrew: I have yet to actually try to use LLMs for anything beyond a curiosity
11:37 PM aandrew: they fail spectacularly at pretty much everything
11:37 PM aandrew: very fancy ELIZA machines really
11:38 PM rue_mohr: ah, a newer install on a laptop is trying