#flex-dev Logs

Nov 03 2025

04:04 AM Tom_L: morning
04:04 AM JT-Chicken: morning
04:05 AM Tom_L: i pushed some metric probe stuff
04:10 AM Tom_L: i need to figure out a metric config to test the ops though
05:17 AM JT-Chicken: got that pulled
05:19 AM JT-Chicken: all you gotta do is change linear units to mm
05:46 AM lcnc-relay: <allaboutjake@> Tom_L: Honestly I don’t know how it should work, just that I didn’t expect a 2.5” move toward the bed after the probe. This is the first time I have a probe to play with so I don’t have a good understanding of typical workflows
05:56 AM JT-Cave: how probing should work depends on what you want
05:56 AM JT-Cave: want/need
06:04 AM lcnc-relay: <allaboutjake@> Yeah. Get that. I think setting #2036 to zero or a slight positive number is probably a more sensible default but as I said I’m new to this
06:05 AM lcnc-relay: <allaboutjake@> I have to check to see if it’s a relative or absolute move to #2046 actually. I’m assuming it’s relative
06:44 AM JT-Cave: never assume...
06:53 AM Tom_L: JT-Cave, to test mm all the velocities etc will be ok?
06:55 AM Tom_L: allaboutjake, this is my first stab at it too so i'm open to suggestions
06:57 AM JT-Cave: the velocities will be in mm/minute so no
06:58 AM JT-Cave: or yes but quite slow
06:59 AM Tom_L: i suppose if it moves i can at least test the routines
06:59 AM JT-Cave: yup
06:59 AM Tom_L: i suspect they're ok but 'ass u me' nothing
07:00 AM JT-Cave: yup
07:00 AM JT-Cave: just multiply the velocities by 25.4
07:00 AM Tom_L: instead of combining inch with metric in the same folder i put some entries in the ini to change to subroutines_metric
07:01 AM Tom_L: i'll copy a config over and see what i get
07:02 AM Tom_L: there were 2 i had to switch direction on on one move
07:16 AM Tom_L: if you're done for this morning i'll build
07:21 AM JT-Cave: wait till later or tomorrow
07:21 AM JT-Cave: working on hal led buttons
07:22 AM Tom_L: ok
07:23 AM JT-Cave: almost got it working except for the led part... at least the hal is working now
07:23 AM * JT-Cave starts his chicken day
07:49 AM Tom_L: JT-Cave, would i divide my joint scale or multiply it?
07:50 AM * Tom_L thinks divide
07:50 AM * Tom_L also thinks he opened a can-o-worms
07:58 AM Tom_L: then there's the per joint PID
08:30 AM JT-Cave: got hal led buttons working now to clean up the mess
08:32 AM Tom_L: nice
08:34 AM Tom_L: 200 cpr, 5mm screw, 10microstep
08:34 AM Tom_L: is metric count per mm?
08:35 AM JT-Shop: yup
08:35 AM Tom_L: would that put scale around 400?
08:36 AM rdtsc-w: 200 * 10 = 2k for one revolution
08:36 AM Tom_L: don't try doing 2 things at once...
08:36 AM JT-Shop: that's what I get
08:36 AM Tom_L: trying to catch up on paperwerk too :)
08:37 AM Tom_L: ok so 2k
08:37 AM Tom_L: then z is reduced by 3 with a pulley
08:37 AM Tom_L: so 6k on it?
08:38 AM Tom_L: wait... one rev is 5mm though
08:38 AM Tom_L: so it's closer to 400?
08:39 AM rdtsc-w: that sounds like a fairly coarse thread; I got imperial screws so am unsure
08:40 AM Tom_L: 5mm pitch screw
08:41 AM rdtsc-w: my scale is 10,000 with 10x microstepping and 200cpr, direct
08:41 AM Tom_L: 10160 for inch here
08:42 AM Tom_L: sounds about right
08:42 AM rdtsc-w: screw is 5 somethings - 200 * 10 * 5 = 10k
08:42 AM Tom_L: 5.08
08:43 AM Tom_L: gotta run
08:43 AM rdtsc-w: have fun
09:03 AM JT-Shop: geeze having fun trying to get a person directions to my house
09:29 AM rdtsc-w: an out-of-town-er?
10:38 AM lcnc-relay: <roguish> good morning.
10:44 AM JT-Shop: yup
10:47 AM rdtsc-w: Wonder if Waze will accept GPS coordinates :)
10:47 AM rdtsc-w: morning roguish
10:48 AM rdtsc-w: "Yes, Waze does accept GPS coordinates, but you need to enter them in the correct format, which is longitude first, followed by latitude, separated by a semicolon (e.g., 101.679442;3.071063). Make sure to check the syntax to ensure accurate navigation."
10:52 AM JT-Cave: the problem is the road I live off of connects to the hwy in two places so if you enter from the north end the directions are reversed
10:57 AM rdtsc-w: if it were me, I'd try "use Waze, type in LONG;LAT" - most ppl have Waze and that'll get 'em there even if they go the wrong way (provided your street is on the map.)
11:12 AM lcnc-relay: <roguish> frack..... been on the phone for over an hour..... several calls.
11:13 AM lcnc-relay: <roguish> talked to my congressman's office...
11:23 AM JT-Shop: most people out here have no clue what a waze is
11:23 AM JT-Shop: I don't even know anyone that uses waze
11:25 AM rdtsc-w: grew up with road atlases; haven't touched one in many years, all do-able from phone now
11:29 AM JT-Shop: if you know how...
11:29 AM * JT-Shop flew from New Orleans to Winter Haven Fl using Texaco road maps
11:29 AM JT-Shop: but that was a long time ago
11:31 AM rdtsc-w: Drove from Ohio to Texas and back using Waze, piece of cake
11:31 AM rdtsc-w: arduous drive however
11:33 AM JT-Shop: Texas is a big state
11:33 AM rdtsc-w: lots of locked gates for acres and acres of land
11:33 AM JT-Shop: I was surprised at the speed limits for rural 2 lane roads in east tx
11:34 AM rdtsc-w: what was it, 50? 55?
11:34 AM rdtsc-w: forget
11:41 AM JT-Shop: 75
12:05 PM rdtsc-w: do seem to recall wondering how one was supposed to get on and off at those speeds :)
12:55 PM Tom_L: just go to swampeast Mo and follow the deadend road down the other deadend road and you can't miss it
12:58 PM Tom_L: and i thought Texas posted speed limit were the minimum
12:59 PM Tom_L: at least until you get to Houston, then you'd better have good brakes
03:28 PM JT-Shop: creating hal widgets was a learning process and now I see where I can make it much easier for the user :)
03:30 PM Tom_L: horray!
03:31 PM JT-Shop: for example if there is no choice for pin type and pin direction there is no need to add them as dynamic properties
03:32 PM JT-Shop: and thinking about it only one dynamic property might be needed hal_pin for the hal pin name
03:33 PM Tom_L: that creates a signal for postgui
03:33 PM JT-Shop: no, it will create the hal pin by that name
03:33 PM JT-Shop: which can be connected in the postgui.hal file
03:34 PM Tom_L: that's what i meant
03:35 PM Tom_L: (i think that's what i meant) :)
03:36 PM JT-Shop: I was just being elucidate
03:37 PM * JT-Shop takes the trash out to the street
03:39 PM Tom_L: just finished paperwork. finally
03:39 PM Tom_L: now maybe i can work on the metric config
03:41 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> hope you guys are watching the emails. there is talk of changing the HAL pin sizes
03:43 PM * JT-Shop takes 5 before putting the wheel back on the Ridgeline
03:48 PM Tom_L: was that the one with the nail?
03:49 PM JT-Shop: sheet metal screw
03:49 PM Tom_L: same effect
03:49 PM JT-Shop: yup pretty slow leak
03:51 PM Tom_L: so unless you can give me a reason not to, i'm goin with 400 for the scale on 200 cpr 10 microstep 5mm screw
03:51 PM Tom_L: x3 for Z
03:51 PM JT-Shop: got the half shaft painted and the strut rod mount painted
03:51 PM JT-Shop: 5mm per rev screw?
03:51 PM Tom_L: yes
03:52 PM JT-Shop: that's 400 scale all day long
03:52 PM Tom_L: i may verify that with a dial but i'm sure it is
03:52 PM Tom_L: this metric shit is for the birds
03:52 PM JT-Shop: the only time I've seen the numbers lie is with belt driven axis
03:53 PM JT-Shop: it's easier to select a tap drill for metric
03:53 PM Tom_L: yeah i suppose
03:53 PM Tom_L: i've been known to eyeball em
03:53 PM JT-Shop: tap diameter - pitch == drill bit size
03:54 PM Tom_L: now what about P on the stepper PID thing?
03:55 PM Tom_L: the rest are either 0 or 1
03:55 PM Tom_L: i have the inch set for P 666.66
03:55 PM JT-Shop: mesact will create a stepper config with the correct p
03:55 PM Tom_L: i had a reason but it's anyone's guess why
03:56 PM JT-Shop: that sounds devilish
03:56 PM Tom_L: that's it!
03:58 PM Tom_L: i'm not even gonna try to figure out the A axis for it
03:58 PM Tom_L: although that's likely the simplest one
03:58 PM JT-Shop: yup
04:01 PM JT-Shop: $25 to fix a flat.. sure wish we had a discount tire here
04:03 PM Tom_L: i just got a set from them recently
04:03 PM Tom_L: and they put in a windshield
04:03 PM JT-Shop: didn't know they did that
04:03 PM Tom_L: that location does both
04:04 PM JT-Shop: I use the one in Farmington
04:04 PM Tom_L: https://discountautoglassandtire.com/
04:05 PM JT-Shop: about 85 miles away
04:07 PM xxcoder: need to evenually replace my tires. fun! current one is chinese bombs and would live though only one trip
04:07 PM xxcoder: and it had one couple days afo
04:08 PM Tom_L: my kid just came in and told me google maps removed street view from the entire country of Sudan
04:09 PM Tom_L: you'd zoom in and all you'd see were piles of bodies
04:09 PM rdtsc-w: O.O
04:09 PM JT-Shop: not a nice place for a vacation then
04:13 PM Tom_L: i have been in ports there were armed guards protecting us
04:13 PM Tom_L: Progresso was one
04:15 PM rdtsc-w: Took a vacay to Jamaica; armed guards outside hotel and airport
04:16 PM Tom_L: been there a few times and stayed on the boat
04:16 PM Tom_L: i noticed an abundance of ocean trash coming into the port too
04:18 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> Sudan makes Gaza look like a park
04:19 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> probably more dangerous places around the world than safe ones...