#flex-dev Logs

Jun 16 2025

08:48 AM Tom_L: i read that debian 12 does not use wpa_supplicant anymore and not to use it in favor of network manager
08:48 AM Tom_L: the nmcli stuff
08:48 AM Tom_L: it's still present but managed by nmcli
08:49 AM Tom_L: i'm not sure who to believe
08:58 AM Tom_L: i'm gonna try a standard rpi 12 os and see if the lcnc image left out something on the wifi stuff
08:58 AM Tom_L: probably not but worth checking
09:04 AM Tom_L: and also a good hardware check
09:05 AM Tom_L: the rpi image found my wifi right away so something isn't quite right on the lcnc image
09:05 AM Tom_L: i know network manager isn't installed by default
09:06 AM rdtsc-w: IIRC my .xz Rpi5 had trouble thinking the WiFi was enabled
09:06 AM Tom_L: the 'official' os found it right off
09:07 AM rdtsc-w: could try a forum post about it
09:07 AM Tom_L: it's not gonna fix the image
09:08 AM Tom_L: i think i'm missing some files for the networking manager to work right but not sure just what
09:08 AM rdtsc-w: no but someone could say "oh you need to install .... oops we forgot" or similar
09:08 AM Tom_L: i'm gonna check the wpa file on the official one and see if it wrote to it
09:08 AM rdtsc-w: I ended up erasing mine and hand-writing all the values into it
09:09 AM rdtsc-w: (using menu-config - think the file is in /etc but there are several)
09:14 AM Tom_L: yeah the official one uses networkmanager and creates a xxx.connection file
09:15 AM Tom_L: won't let me view the file
09:15 AM Tom_L: 270 bytes
09:16 AM Tom_L: no /network.interfaces file
09:18 AM Tom_L: ai gave me a list of dependencies so we'll see
09:29 AM JT-Shop: seems like the buck is ok with me at 10' but draws the line at 8'
09:31 AM Tom_L: don't cross that line....
09:31 AM Tom_L: maybe he'll let his guard down eventually
09:33 AM Tom_L: starting with a fresh image we'll see what happens. at least i know the hardware works now
09:33 AM JT-Shop: that's good to know
09:34 AM Tom_L: connected right away with no rj45
09:34 AM Tom_L: i think they left it out to be light weight
09:35 AM Tom_L: but if you're using any rpi, you'll use wifi for that and ethernet for mesa
11:02 AM Tom_L: i dunno
11:02 AM Tom_L: i was able to get network-manager and the gui part installed and created a wifi entry
11:03 AM Tom_L: the device shows active
11:03 AM Tom_L: won't scan though
11:04 AM rdtsc-w: mine won't scan either... so I edited the wpa_supplicant and just filled it out
11:05 AM rdtsc-w: think it needs a reboot after editing
11:05 AM Tom_L: so did i but even so it won't connect
11:05 AM Tom_L: networkmanager restart won't get it?
11:06 AM rdtsc-w: it might, but the rpi is quick to reboot :)
11:08 AM Tom_L: now it did
11:09 AM rdtsc-w: linux is funny about needing to log out and back in for all sorts of things... easier and faster just to reboot a Rpi5
11:09 AM Tom_L: and now it's connected to the router
11:10 AM rdtsc-w: ping www.cnn.com
11:10 AM Tom_L: i'll see if i can repeat it now
11:10 AM Tom_L: i've tested the connection
11:10 AM rdtsc-w: :)
11:10 AM Tom_L: i did remove the interfaces file
11:10 AM Tom_L: in networking
11:11 AM Tom_L: if you use networkmanager you don't use that file
11:11 AM rdtsc-w: I sense a tree of options :)
11:12 AM Tom_L: it's just finding the right steps to take
11:13 AM rdtsc-w: hmm, wonder if you can mount that .xz to a virtual machine like VirtualBox... would make for quick testing from your main PC
11:13 AM Tom_L: now i wonder where to set up a static ip for eth0
11:13 AM Tom_L: since it says not to use interfaces
11:13 AM Tom_L: i may put it there and see
11:14 AM rdtsc-w: have a mesa to connect to eth0? (to make sure that works)
11:14 AM Tom_L: i have a few
11:14 AM Tom_L: that's why i got this was to test
11:14 AM rdtsc-w: rpi4 was good, but 5 is "what the rpi should have always been"
11:15 AM Tom_L: i need lunch though. i'm hangry
11:15 AM rdtsc-w: heheh had lunch early here, no hangry
11:15 AM Tom_L: i'll burn the image again and repeat this
11:16 AM rdtsc-w: currently replacing 24 elect caps on an allen-bradley 50HP drive from the 1990's
11:16 AM Tom_L: let that run while i eat
11:54 AM Tom_L: ok i repeated it
11:54 AM Tom_L: network manager doesn't want to see the interfaces file
11:55 AM Tom_L: i did edit the wpa_supplicant file but i'm going to try it without once
11:57 AM Tom_L: since i read networkmanager doesn't use it
12:23 PM Tom_L: rdtsc-w, you don't need to edit the wpa_suppicant file
12:23 PM Tom_L: it's not used
12:23 PM Tom_L: nor is interfaces
12:31 PM Tom_L: if you haven't changed eth0 to static for mesa yet and plug it in, it will switch to wired over wifi for wan
12:31 PM Tom_L: i set this up all from the menus and upper bar icon
12:36 PM Tom_L: doing it this way it creates a file in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
12:37 PM Tom_L: i've only created one yet but i suppose it makes one for the eth0 too
12:37 PM Tom_L: once you edit for static ip
01:00 PM rdtsc-w: nice; mine seems to be working - lets hope we never have to revisit it :)
01:16 PM Tom_L: we have notes
04:15 PM lcnc-relay: <ccatlett1984@> Lol
04:16 PM Tom_L: so both work now
04:34 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/Rpi5/rpi5_wifi_steps.txt
04:34 PM Tom_L: updated a bit
04:34 PM Tom_L: for both connections
04:36 PM JT-Shop: long day here... they finally decided to purchase the surface grinder
04:37 PM Tom_L: nice
04:37 PM JT-Shop: best part is I can still use it
04:37 PM Tom_L: yeah you mentioned that
07:50 PM rdtsc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrIOWaCoTWg
07:58 PM Tom_L: i did a thread mill macro for flex
07:59 PM Tom_L: and that's true within reason
07:59 PM Tom_L: smaller threads would require smaller toos
07:59 PM Tom_L: tools
08:00 PM Tom_L: there are 'ranges' the geometry dictates
08:00 PM Tom_L: mine will do internal or external R or L hand
08:03 PM Tom_L: rdtsc, have you done any threadmilling?
08:08 PM Tom_L: those are single point but they make multi point so you can make a couple arcs and be done instead of having to do the whole helix
08:08 PM Tom_L: more efficient but more limited to a single thread
08:10 PM Tom_L: https://github.com/tlight9/flexgui/blob/master/examples/touch-probe3/subroutines/thread_mill.ngc
08:10 PM Tom_L: if you're interested :)
08:14 PM Tom_L: if you notice too internal start at the bottom and arc up where external start at the top and arc down
08:15 PM Tom_L: he's just showing internal
08:16 PM Tom_L: i'm not quite sure why he broke it up into quadrants though unless the control works that way
10:01 PM Tom_L: JT-Cave, PR #325 for deb